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Originally Posted by mcogan10 View Post
FYI, the 9800GX2 is MUCH more powerful than an 8800 Ultra.
yeah, I'm aware, but I've also seen reviews where 8800 Does just as good (sometimes better) than the 9800GX2.

It was only on one or two games, and it was on 4xAA on lower res (the GX2 chokes with AA for now)

source: this review http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/...force_9800gx2/
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I have 1 GTX, will add another in the future "just because" - but really, other than crysis, I can run essentially anything I have @ 1650x1080. I have a 7950 GX2 also and in my opinion dual card GPUs are not worth it, alot of heat and less OC headroom.
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I have 1 GTX, will add another in the future "just because" - but really, other than crysis, I can run essentially anything I have @ 1650x1080. I have a 7950 GX2 also and in my opinion dual card GPUs are not worth it, alot of heat and less OC headroom.
I agree with you on that one.

I'm sure i'll be happy with the 9800GTX.
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Source-Based games scale horridly in SLI.

From what I understand the GX2 has it's own SLI chip, but is still greatly dependant on the game itself to increase performance wise.

Which is the only thing stopping me from getting a 780i and another GTS, most games I play are source, I'd love to get some better FPS, but source doesn't support SLI well....

So if that's really all you play, a single card solution would be much better. Or as lins said, stick with the GT. Great card.
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Source-Based games scale horridly in SLI.

From what I understand the GX2 has it's own SLI chip, but is still greatly dependant on the game itself to increase performance wise.

Which is the only thing stopping me from getting a 780i and another GTS, most games I play are source, I'd love to get some better FPS, but source doesn't support SLI well....

So if that's really all you play, a single card solution would be much better. Or as lins said, stick with the GT. Great card.
Yeah, But I'll always want more. Seems like the 9800GTX is my next best bet
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Then there's the 9800GX2.

From what I understand it preforms close to (and sometimes better than) the 8800Ultra.

Also I've heard it's essentially two 8800GTS's in one.

Shawnj0
First, it performs far above an Ultra. 60% better at stock.

Also, though it is using 2 G92's, it has much greater memory bandwidth (128 Gb/s) and almost twice the throughput as the Ultra with 768 GFlops. It's guts have been upgraded beyond the Ultra, and the implementation of 2 beefed-up G92's works perfectly.

You COULD spend $100 more than a single GX2 and SLI a couple of GTXs, but the performance isn't that far above a GX2. Also consider how much power that requires, how much heat is produced, the space in your case it takes up, poor scaling, common SLI issues where some games don't even support it, and at times stuttering in-game. SLi is just plain silly. 2x as much for 20% increase? Come on.

The GX2 is a great card, and some better drivers would allow it to perform even better.

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yeah, I'm aware, but I've also seen reviews where 8800 Does just as good (sometimes better) than the 9800GX2.

It was only on one or two games, and it was on 4xAA on lower res (the GX2 chokes with AA for now)
The above quote brings me to my next point, and that is AA is pretty much redundant when using 1680x1050 and up. If you really wanted to use AA on 1680x1050, 2xAA is sufficient. Even though they were using AA on lower res to show the results, it's not necessary. Also be aware that benchmark reviews are a general idea, not a definite result of performance. Some games perform different on different hardware. Look at the overall performance to get a clear idea, and across the board with the exception of maybe a few games the GX2 far exceeds the Ultra.

NOW, what I must say here is the 9800 cards, both of them, are only temporary flagships. They are going to be replaced this same year by the 9900 cards (GTX and GX2). The 9900 cards will be the true flagships of this year.
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Source-Based games scale horridly in SLI.

From what I understand the GX2 has it's own SLI chip, but is still greatly dependant on the game itself to increase performance wise.

Which is the only thing stopping me from getting a 780i and another GTS, most games I play are source, I'd love to get some better FPS, but source doesn't support SLI well....

So if that's really all you play, a single card solution would be much better. Or as lins said, stick with the GT. Great card.
TF2 owns bro...ATI is better for source
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First, it performs far above an Ultra. 60% better at stock.

Also, though it is using 2 G92's, it has much greater memory bandwidth (128 Gb/s) and almost twice the throughput as the Ultra with 768 GFlops. It's guts have been upgraded beyond the Ultra, and the implementation of 2 beefed-up G92's works perfectly.

You COULD spend $100 more than a single GX2 and SLI a couple of GTXs, but the performance isn't that far above a GX2. Also consider how much power that requires, how much heat is produced, the space in your case it takes up, poor scaling, common SLI issues where some games don't even support it, and at times stuttering in-game. SLi is just plain silly. 2x as much for 20% increase? Come on.

The GX2 is a great card, and some better drivers would allow it to perform even better.



The above quote brings me to my next point, and that is AA is pretty much redundant when using 1680x1050 and up. If you really wanted to use AA on 1680x1050, 2xAA is sufficient. Even though they were using AA on lower res to show the results, it's not necessary. Also be aware that benchmark reviews are a general idea, not a definite result of performance. Some games perform different on different hardware. Look at the overall performance to get a clear idea, and across the board with the exception of maybe a few games the GX2 far exceeds the Ultra.

NOW, what I must say here is the 9800 cards, both of them, are only temporary flagships. They are going to be replaced this same year by the 9900 cards (GTX and GX2). The 9900 cards will be the true flagships of this year.
Yeah, you are definitely up to speed man. Everything you have said i've read before, in reviews, on the net, or in forums. Thanks for the information.

I do like the GX2 but it's about 600 for me, but the 9800GTX (299.00) seems like the balance between where I am now and getting a GX2.

My plan is to just get a eVGA 9800GTX and step up to either a GX2 or a 9900GTX/GX2 if they're released in June.
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I will say GX2.
Better for future gaming.
Last you longer.
Look the Best.
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So, after reading previous replies in this post I get the impression that the GX2 will run OK on a crossfire mobo even though it's an SLI based card and would therefore run OK on my Maximus Formula, cooool
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