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I don't think realism is the key here, balance is.

Knifing, grenade launchers, martyr, etc. are all troublesome in the multiplayer game simply because they are unbalanced. Its tough to get a one shot kill with a sniper rifle (and I have finished all the sniper challenges) and yet its very easy to sprint/slash to a one hit kill. Watching guys bunny hop/slash is pretty pathetic.

The size of the maps makes nade spamming with the grenade launchers a favoured noob tactic. Thats one of the reasons I won't play hardcore. With the launchers I've seen players use overkill with 2 launchers and rack up dozens of spawn point kills on busy maps without even seeing their targets.

Martyr is more a frustration issue. Its a cheap way to get easy kills. I don't really begrudge new players from using it as they need the help but I personally think it should be disabled when a character hits L55 or restarts a new profile. That would reduce it to a noob tool which I think most of us could live with.
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I don't think realism is the key here, balance is.

Knifing, grenade launchers, martyr, etc. are all troublesome in the multiplayer game simply because they are unbalanced. Its tough to get a one shot kill with a sniper rifle (and I have finished all the sniper challenges) and yet its very easy to sprint/slash to a one hit kill. Watching guys bunny hop/slash is pretty pathetic.

The size of the maps makes nade spamming with the grenade launchers a favoured noob tactic. Thats one of the reasons I won't play hardcore. With the launchers I've seen players use overkill with 2 launchers and rack up dozens of spawn point kills on busy maps without even seeing their targets.

Martyr is more a frustration issue. Its a cheap way to get easy kills. I don't really begrudge new players from using it as they need the help but I personally think it should be disabled when a character hits L55 or restarts a new profile. That would reduce it to a noob tool which I think most of us could live with.
I think matyrdom should just be an aspect of the Last Stand perk. You can use your pistol and if you are quick enough, press the frag button and pull a frag out instead of automatically crapping out a magical grenade. And of course you should actually have a grenade in your inventory.
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I think matyrdom should just be an aspect of the Last Stand perk. You can use your pistol and if you are quick enough, press the frag button and pull a frag out instead of automatically crapping out a magical grenade. And of course you should actually have a grenade in your inventory.
you make a good point, you should have the nade/pistol left in your inventory.

sometimes i swap my pistol for another weapon someone leaves lying around, then if i go to last stand i magic an m9!

same with the nade crapping thing.
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I reckon it needs a free SP expansion-pack as the SP campaign is way too short, although brilliantly executed (imho)
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post #35 of 46
love the idea m8

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Has anyone brought up the idea of naked girls?

No?

That's my suggestion.




Back on topic, I think that the only problem would be one of the players would be shot at by someone else, so they'd both need invincibility to make it fair, and that would screw things up as people would moan when they attempt to attack people who they don't realise are in knife fights and then die.
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sorry... i think the dude with the knife all you guys are complaining about is me lol The knife is my favorite weapon... I use a shotgun as my main weapon but I proabably get around half of my kills with the knife. My kill death ratio is around 2:1 too.
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you know what CoD4 really needs?

bigger maps + vehicles! make it the size of BF2, but with CoD4's awesomeness.

finally a proper COD4 improvement...

i would play nothing else if they did this ...warrock map size & vehicles
exellent sniping distances ... locked spawn points so it limits spawning in front of the enemy

to the OP its not that bad an idea but i love the knife.... it would really pi.. me off
to creep up behind someone knife him & go into the said melee battle & lose when victory should have been mine
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Back on topic, I think that the only problem would be one of the players would be shot at by someone else, so they'd both need invincibility to make it fair, and that would screw things up as people would moan when they attempt to attack people who they don't realise are in knife fights and then die.
there will always be moaners, and here i am moaning about moaners! its a vicious circle.

i seriously think the singleplayer expansion would be a good idea, the singleplayer campaign was good, although i found the ending a bit half hearted really. compared to the rest of it that is.
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Has anyone brought up the idea of naked girls?

No?

That's my suggestion.




Back on topic, I think that the only problem would be one of the players would be shot at by someone else, so they'd both need invincibility to make it fair, and that would screw things up as people would moan when they attempt to attack people who they don't realise are in knife fights and then die.
That's how Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Outcast MP duels sort of worked, someone challenged you to a duel and if you accepted the two of you were in your own little sphere of invincibility. That would be silly in COD4 though. "Let's settle this with knives!" "So be it!"

But everything in the game could say just as it is and I would be happy if the maps were just larger. Any of the maps with more than about 30 players is just ludicrous. Sniping these days is pointless because everyone knows where the roosts are and like Robilar said, some people know where all the spawn points are and just nade spam all day.

If anything, Activision damn well better release the Variety Map Pack for PC.
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