Originally Posted by thunder_2008
Hello DD & others,
I can tell you that you have a really good point duck. I have an Arctic Web tec 437watts w/600watt p.s. unit. It gets my temps to 25-30load in 80ambient temp. I'm using true measured 437watts and I also have my northbridge and memory in the loop.
Without the north or memory I have had a steady -14idle & 0load.
I would say DD, that what makes your set-up different as per your drawings is that you have the water loop attached to the cold side of the tec as opposed to the hot side.
In the drawing you show the heatsink fan as cooling the hot side...while I can not think of any current manufacturer that makes any setup this way. I would admit it is not such a bad idea at all~!!!
As stated earlier my tec uses the hot side to pass water over, which transfers all 437watts of heat into my Aqua Computer 360XT water tower. It is not good as it's designed to only intermittantly turn on it's three(very silent)fans for a brief minute then go 3 or more minutes before doing it again.
Since I added the tec the fans are on always, also the water temps are around 50 coming in and 30 going out cold again. Before the hot water coming in was 30 and 17 and lower going out.
So, in theory to have the hot side of the tec cooled sufficiently by air and have the cold side by water would be good.
The problem here is that then you would be dispersing 437watts of cooling into not just the cpu block but the water as well, thus dissipating the benefit of direct tec cooling.
What would be best would be to either cool the water it's self with an array of tec.s'(much like the new coolit sys.); or ....
And I think the most efficient economical would be a hybrid of watercooling the hot side as well as a strategically placed heatsink and fan. Thus cooling the heatsink allowing the water to cool prior to reaching the radiator.
But then the guys that made the Arctic and the Coolit sys. . They would say people don't want to hear a fan in the computer when they already have ones on the radiator.
Still a water-jacketed air-heatsink would in the least seem to be a more efficient future design, I'm certain this alone could remove at least 5degrees(more still if a small silent fan) and with the fan much more if designed to run quiet.
I think of many people who have all water cooled computers yet still have the small accessory fan on the motherboard of Asus motherboards.
The idea is good just needs evolution...one thing I will say is that new ideas go along way. After all is that not how the modern computer is where it is now?
I have some ideas of my own on using phase change. I am selling my Arctic Web on eBay now with the power supply as well....so anyone wanting to get into tec cpu cooling at a great price check it out.
Sorry, but I just licensed your post to Warner Bros. and they're gonna make a movie about it.
Ok, on topic now:
For those who dont understand what hes saying (like the first guy who responded
) hes asking if you can cool the TUBE of water using a cold plate,followed by the TEC and a heatsink with fan. I would say this wouldn't be too effective since :
1- You might have problems freezing the tube.
2- The surface your cooling will be very small compared to the size of what your using to cool it.
3- The water will zip right by it, not having too much time to dissipate its heat.
A better solution would be to TEC-cool a reservoir, where you have much more space to cool, and you can get an aluminium one which I believe cools better than a plastic tube. Also, more water would be in contact for longer, so the water temps will be colder, and the heasink on the TEC will have to cool off a bit less.
Maybe you could even cool the radiator...hmm..