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This is an assumption made by a lot of people that is simply not true. I am not sure why people believe this. When the alternative is charging the battery, there is an electric potential and this makes the alternator harder to turn.
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Theres no radiator fan on F1 cars, all are cooled by the movement of air through the radiators by the cars forward momentum. Thats why you'll get the commentators 'panicking' when the cars are sat on the grid for 40+ seconds.




Its a mute point anyway as engine development is barred.
Ah, well. I'm sure you guys know the saying about making too many assumptions.

Carry on.
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This is why I like the American Lemans over F1 or NASCAR.
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This car would be faster if they used a Intel 45nm dual core. You would save about 60 watts of power (.08 HP).
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Intel uses less power than AMD. Thats more power to go to the wheels.
First of all I can almost guarantee you that in F1 racing, not the silly hybrid racing, no electrical energy is actually going to the wheels... it's most likely just firing the pistons and powering the computer.

Secondly, even if electrical energy DID go to the wheels, i can guarantee you that in an F1 engine of all places, the alternator is putting out more than enough power to be able to power several of these processors, let alone just 1

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It is .08HP and although that doesn't sound like much, this is high performance racing, everything counts.

.08HP may not be much, but what if you manage to gain .08HP in 15 places? That 1.2HP! In high performance racing, everything matters.
I'm sure the extra weight of the heatsink that they would have to use to cool one of intels silly northbridges would be more detrimental to the cars overall performance than the extra 60 watts an AMD proc would use...
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so what does the intel vs amd war have to do with F1?apart from NOTHING!

all this talk of who is better should stay where it belongs,in the PC market,not dragged onto a stage where it does not apply....i.e F1. F1 has nothing to do with the current cpu war.

AMD are a sponsor for one team and INTEL sponsor another,thats it..............all that talk over which uses less electrical power means nothing in a race car,they all use the same ECU which are made by BOSCH iirc
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First of all I can almost guarantee you that in F1 racing, not the silly hybrid racing, no electrical energy is actually going to the wheels... it's most likely just firing the pistons and powering the computer.

Secondly, even if electrical energy DID go to the wheels, i can guarantee you that in an F1 engine of all places, the alternator is putting out more than enough power to be able to power several of these processors, let alone just 1



I'm sure the extra weight of the heatsink that they would have to use to cool one of intels silly northbridges would be more detrimental to the cars overall performance than the extra 60 watts an AMD proc would use...
Where does that electrical energy that powers the CPU come from? The alternator... which is turned by the ENGINE. Don't you understand that if you increase the electric potential you make it more difficult to turn the alternator, thus drawing power from the engine...
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I dont know if you guys realized, but the computing power required for the onboard functions of a modern day F1 car is not that much considering the ban on traction control from this year. What the article was talking about was the computing power required for race simulation, and data analysis just to mention a few. These are for outside a F1 car. I remember long back say around 6 to 8 years back when compaq was a sponsor of BMW-Williams car, part of a deal was to provide a super computer for race simulation. So i feel they were talking about a supercomputer setup required off track and not with in a car.
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I dont know if you guys realized, but the computing power required for the onboard functions of a modern day F1 car is not that much considering the ban on traction control from this year. What the article was talking about was the computing power required for race simulation, and data analysis just to mention a few. These are for outside a F1 car. I remember long back say around 6 to 8 years back when compaq was a sponsor of BMW-Williams car, part of a deal was to provide a super computer for race simulation. So i feel they were talking about a supercomputer setup required off track and not with in a car.
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And do engines not have processors?
No, they don't.

They have mechanical parts like pistons and crankshafts and valves and chains.

Electronic engine management systems, the controllers which are not be mounted on an F1 engine (because of all the vibrations and heat stresses), do. But these are very specialized systems with very specialized chips.
    
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Yes, of course they are different, but the way they work isn't different. The computer has a big role in the car.

Intel uses less power than AMD. Thats more power to go to the wheels.
But do F1 cars use ELECTRICITY or PETROL?
And the Alternator almost always produces enough power for a bloody Pentium 4 at 5Ghz, whether that power gets used or not, is what counts.
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This is epic.
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