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Hey guys , my specs are below , and I was told by someone on anather forum , that my DDR667 ram is slowing down my enitre pc....not just because of the speed but also the latency....


heres a 3d mark score , "apparently" if I get DDR 800 ram with lower timings my score will go up by 10%....

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?i...5494965qo3.jpg

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Thats a Fairly good score for your Computer, Is your videocard overclocked at all?

I think you should be hitting atleast 16k though.
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From what I've learned on here since early February, that is true. The ram in this system is a "bottleneck", and 800MHz with timings such as 4 4 4 12 or something will not be as much of a bottleneck. But I don't know anything. I'm just going by what I think I've learned on here.
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my video card is oc'd from :

675 > 785
1600 > 1900
1100 > 1100 (havent oc'd memory)

the reason i cant push my cpu any further is my ram starts to crash
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Trust me, an extra 132MHz and some slightly tighter timings aren't going to impact overall performance very much. I've ran numerous tests and benchmarks in the past with different RAM speeds/ratios, and while the scores are different (obviously), the tangible amount is mostly negligible.

PS: I'm not trying to deter you from OC'ing at all. Sure, every little bit helps. The difference with just RAM isn't going to be big. BUT with DDR2 prices the way they are, however, you may just want to pick up a nice DDR2-1066MHz set just for the heck of it.
    
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thanks for clearing that up choggs....

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I would say it would be much more accurate to say the following: Because 3dMark06 as a test is highly CPU-speed dependent when using a modern higher-end graphics card (i.e. 8800GS or above I'd guess), the memory one is using when running the test is important in so far as it *may* be a limiting factor to your overall CPU overclock. E.G. Memory may affect the max clock speed your cpu is able to reach, due to a 1:1 divider being the lowest you can set.

The *actual* speed the memory is running at, as well as the timings it runs at, are accountable for *maybe* 1% of your overall score on the test. And the CPU speed can account for *much* more than 10%.

But that's just one test, and you wouldn't see the cpu having *nearly* that much impact on your fps in games (unless its an old game, and you're using low IQ settings, in which case your cpu may cap your framerate ... at like 100+FPS)
    
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Originally Posted by Choggs396 View Post
Trust me, an extra 132MHz and some slightly tighter timings aren't going to impact overall performance very much. I've ran numerous tests and benchmarks in the past with different RAM speeds/ratios, and while the scores are different (obviously), the tangible amount is mostly negligible.

PS: I'm not trying to deter you from OC'ing at all. Sure, every little bit helps. The difference with just RAM isn't going to be big. BUT with DDR2 prices the way they are, however, you may just want to pick up a nice DDR2-1066MHz set just for the heck of it.
the differences in the ram performance might not make much of a difference but the difference in his FSB would as that controlls his CPU overclock.

FSBxmultiplier=cpu speed remember. FSB can only go as high as the ram is willing.

you should know this choggs

btw work sucks makes one want to
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the differences in the ram performance might not make much of a difference but the difference in his FSB would as that controlls his CPU overclock.

FSBxmultiplier=cpu speed remember. FSB can only go as high as the ram is willing.

you should know this choggs

btw work sucks makes one want to
LOL, true. I wasn't thinking about that. Weird....
    
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