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1GB on a 256-bit is *NOT* in and of itself 'useless', I wish people would stop saying that, cause it ain't necessarily true.

To answer an above question, when you run SLI, your total memory capacity is whatever is available on ONE of your cards. This is because both cards have to have their own copies of all the same memory information so that they can alternate rendering frames without having to pass data between them over the PCI-Ex bus, which would be far too slow.

When you start talking SLI, especially with really high-end cores like the G92, you begin to have sufficient processing power to be able to run newer games at 1920x1200, with 4xAA and whatnot. This is *precisely* the scenario in which having extra memory begins to come in very handy.

If was thinking of going SLI with 8800/9800gtx, I would *absolutely* want two 1G cards. This means, I would not buy a GX2, obviously. With a single card, no, I'd probably stick with 512MB, because with one core you still don't have the processing power to run at high enough settings to *require* >512MB of vram (although there are exceptions to this as well, if you are talking a game that loads a lot of high-res textures, for example).

SLI would be a different story altogether.

This is especially true of the 9800GTX, given that we're starting to see some pretty dang high memory overclocks with this card, which will help with overcoming the limitations that might be posed by the 256-bit bus. Memory BANDWIDTH can come into play with regards to choosing a 'proper' memory capacity for a given core, but its ultimately still mostly about the core's power, and bus width is only ONE factor in determining total available memory bandwidth.
    
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ok knowing i came from a 760gs 256 and now have a 9600gt 512, which route would you think would be the best route, 1 gx2 for now and if luck later to add a 2nd or go with 2 gtx? I am running res at 1920x1080 and want to game at max graphics not to sure about AA or AF. I play Half-life 2 Org box, Oblivion, Age of Conan, Assassin's Creed, Bio Shock, Lost planet etc. What do you think?
    
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If it were me I'd get another 9600GT and wait to upgrade until the next generation (or maybe 2). Two 9600GT's are an excellent video card solution, truly exceptional with regards to price/performance ratio. And given that you already have one, it will be especially cheap to implement. So unless you're just like stupid rich, that's the way I would go.
    
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and what is the stream processer? I mean like the 9600gt has 64.
    
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From the 8 Series Wiki:
GeForce 8's unified shader architecture consists of a number of stream processors (SPs). Unlike the vector processing approach taken with older shader units, each SP is scalar and thus can operate only on one component at a time. This makes them less complex to build while still being quite flexible and universal. Scalar shader units also have the advantage of being more efficient in a number of cases as compared to previous generation vector shader units that rely on ideal instruction mixture and ordering to reach peak throughput. The lower maximum throughput of these scalar processors is compensated for by efficiency and by running them at a high clock speed (made possible by their simplicity). GeForce 8 runs the various parts of its core at differing clock speeds (clock domains), similar to the operation of the previous GeForce 7 Series GPUs. For example, the stream processors of GeForce 8800 GTX operate at a 1.35 GHz clock rate while the rest of the chip is operating at 575 MHz.[2]


You get it now? Me neither, but hey, it is what it is. The more SPs, and the faster they run (i.e your 'shader' clocks, which is actually not the proper term but everyone uses it, so what are you gonna do?), the merrier

Suffice to say, unlike with video memory, your shader count effectively stacks in SLI. 2x9600GT's will give you 128 SP's.
    
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Where are you getting that SLI 9800GTX is close to SLI 9800GX2?

In SLI the 9800GTX is a bit faster than a single 9800GX2, which is to be expected. TRI SLI 9800GTX is a bit slower than SLI 9800GX2s.

And I doubt we'll see 9800GTX 1GB before they are discontinued in a few months...
    
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If it were me I'd get another 9600GT and wait to upgrade until the next generation (or maybe 2). Two 9600GT's are an excellent video card solution, truly exceptional with regards to price/performance ratio. And given that you already have one, it will be especially cheap to implement. So unless you're just like stupid rich, that's the way I would go.
good suggestion!

the 9600s seem to scale in SLI better than almost any other card. I'd bet that 2 9600GTs would EASILY beat a 9800GTX.

Plus it'd be a great interim solution until the real 9 series comes out ie non-g92-based cards..
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when the 9800gtx was compaired on a artical i read (will find and link it) they did single gtx and gx2, 2 gtx and gx2 and a gtx tri sli on different benchmarks and showed the numbers, the 2 gtx's where just under by about 2 to 8 fps in some test and in some they where better, but when the 2 gtx and 2 gx2 where test with AA and AF on the GX2 pull ahead by alot. and then with 3 gtx(which my motherboard will not handle) i didnt pay any to it. But from all the different bench's I have seen on stock gtx sli, and stock gx2 sli there is just very little difference on bench. again I know that systems make alot of differenece, what one may get with a gtx may beat a gx2 because of cpu bottlenecking etc. But on that test artical it was all on the same system so. But, i am not to big to say this, I dont know, I just got a 9600gt about a month ago and before that i was a 7600gs, so I have no real ground to say that gx2 is less then a gtx, other then how i interpret what I read. And again I will try to find the artical and link it.

Edit: Here is the article. Its along article. so be warned
    
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Post article above, but here it is agian. its long so be warned.
    
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