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Okay well i have my Pentium D 840 stock 3.2 ghz at 4ghz now, runs pretty good, but im building a server and im going to put my Pentium d in it to save money and buy a new cpu for my Sig Rig

Obviously im not wanting to spend a boat load like most people, and mybe a decent over clocker. I seen on new egg they have the e8200 on there for 170 bucks... and i read a couple reviews on people pushing them to 3.9ghz on air...


I have TT120 so air cooling shouldn't be any problem....

What you fellas think? Any suggestions?
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depends on how much you want to spend. The e8200 will run circles around your pentium D. If you want to spend less, the e7200 looks like it's going to be around the $140 price range, at 2.53ghz and 3mb cache and 9.5 multi .
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I think 3.9 on air is a bit optimistic for the E8200. it is a nice CPU and will OC well, but I think 3.6-3.7 is more realistic. IMO, you would be silly not to get a Q6600. They are the best price vs. performance CPU right now. I know the main reason not to is that most people here game, and although most games don't utilize the quads, they will. Since your last CPU was a pentium, I assume you will want to keep whatever you buy now for a few years.

The 45nm duals are great and would be fun to OC, but being so sensitive to voltages and given the prices of the Q's....
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Im not against the Q's... i do game alot... so if it helps but i figured since the games now dont utilize the quad, whats the use other than benchmarking for a quad core... im probably wrong so enlighten me please...Im wanting to spend less than 200 bucks and have a good upgrade, i understand about anything new will run circles around my pentium d
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Im not against the Q's... i do game alot... so if it helps but i figured since the games now dont utilize the quad, whats the use other than benchmarking for a quad core... im probably wrong so enlighten me please...Im wanting to spend less than 200 bucks and have a good upgrade, i understand about anything new will run circles around my pentium d
Well, any program that can utilize more than 4 cores. There isn't too much out there now, but I was just pointing out that more cores is the future, so if you want something that will be a bit more "future-proof" I recommend a quad. If all you do is game and you don't plan on buying any newer games in the next year or 2, then i wouldn't worry about it. it seems silly to get an E8200 that can OC to 3.6-3.8 or a Q6600 that can get to 3.4-3.6 for roughly the same price. Granted, the dual core will run cooler and be easier to OC.

I don't know of any specific apps that can use all 4 cores (there are some games, just forget which ones) and anything like video coding or graphics arts programs and such. As we progress into the future, more and more things will be coded to use more than 2 cores.


edit: here is a post that lists some of the programs that use all 4 cores:



http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/24...quad-core-chip

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2793051



In the end it is all up to you. The new 45nm chips are great values, I just see too many people choosing a CPU of GFX card just because it is new and not on its merits.
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what Q's sell for less than $200
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what Q's sell for less than $200
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/510...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0257938


Those and used ones. I just got one f5rom a member on OCN for $180 shipped. Granted, the Fry's deal had some B3's thrown in (only really an issue if you can't get to a B&M location and see the stepping) and the Microcenter is in store only, but still a good deal.
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B&M location and B3's? ....sorry but whats the lingo mean
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B&M location and B3's? ....sorry but whats the lingo mean
Sorry. B3's were the stepping before G0's. The B3's have a slightly lower heat tolerance and the G0's are known to be much better overclockers than the B3's.

B&M stands for Brick and Mortar. This usually implies a deal the is in store only (as in, you can't order online) Since some, (like me) don't leave near a fry's, we would be forced to order online. Since the B&M stores do not accept returns from the online stores, you would be stuck with a B3 if thats what you recieved. (still not all that bad, but G0's are the ones to get) If you go down to the Fry's B&M store, you can look at the CPU packaging and determine what stepping it is before buying it, therfore eliminating the chance or a B3.

The Microcenter deal is B&M only, so you need to buy it at the actual store and not available at those prices online.


The nice thing about these sales is they have driven down the price of used Q6600 G0's. many people are selling them for $200-$215 shipped and you can even find them for less if you are patient. there was a Q6600 B3 that sold in the FS section here for $150. thats a great deal on a quad even though it is one of the less desirable ones.
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I dont think i want to to deal with a low buck quad, id rather have a nicer end duo or something... So probably an E8400 unless anybody else has any opinions
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