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I was wondering if the PCI-E slot on this mobo was PCI-E 16x 1.0 or 2.0 ?? a.k.a full x16 speed
     
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The slot is PCI-E 1.0 and is full x16. The X38 and 780i and up use the 2.0 PCI-E standard. It isnt an issue now, or in the near future TBH.
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Doh. Is there a P35 board such as the ds3r that feature a pci-e 2.0 ? Double bandwith... is it that much of a performance loss ?

I don't care updating my sytem later, but I don't want to change the mobo.
     
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I havent seen any of the P35 chipset boards boasting a 2.0 PCI-E. it is inegral to the chipset, so I dont expect to see one. You might want to look into the ASUS P5E X38 board. It is at newegg as an Open Box for $119.
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newegg won't load in firefox, and hum... guess ill have to do a little research to know if the x38 is better than the p35. Gigabyte seems fines however, but i don't know for how much time.
     
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Originally Posted by Cr4zYH3aD View Post
newegg won't load in firefox, and hum... guess ill have to do a little research to know if the x38 is better than the p35. Gigabyte seems fines however, but i don't know for how much time.
The X38 seems to OC just as well as the P35. Here is a comparison of the chipsets:

Source: X-bit labs



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The newer chipset acquired XMP (Extended Memory Profiles) technology support. It is somewhat similar to Nvidia EPP (Enhanced Performance Profiles) Intel introduced for DDR3 SDRAM. In fact, it implies SPP extensions with information needed to use these memory modules for overclocking needs. Corresponding profiles added to the SPD bear the info on frequency, voltage and timings settings.

These are about the only differences between X38 and P35. However everything we have just mentioned turned out more than enough to require significant changes in the North Bridge of the new core logic. Of course, it affected the heat dissipation in the first place. The Intel X38 North Bridge features 36.5W typical heat dissipation, while the same characteristic for Intel P35 equals only 16W. Although the new chipset is manufactured using pretty up-to-date 65nm production process, the high TDP forced Intel to equip the chip with the same type of a heat-spreader lid that we have only seen on CPUs and server chipsets before.

Intel X38 chipset costs $50, which is about $20 more than the price of Intel P35.
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post #8 of 9
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I see. Pretty much the same.

DDR2-800 only ? but DDR3-1333 ? What the heck, it's 1333 FSB, so my 1066 ram should run at 1066.

edit: thanks for the X38 suggestion, i might look at the ASUS P5E X38. It's a tad better I think.
     
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I see. Pretty much the same.

DDR2-800 only ? but DDR3-1333 ? What the heck, it's 1333 FSB, so my 1066 ram should run at 1066.

edit: thanks for the X38 suggestion, i might look at the ASUS P5E X38. It's a tad better I think.

The x38 is offered in DDR2 and DDR3 varieties. DDR2 is fine, so just get a board that specifically states DDR2.

As for the DDR2 800, that is the official support, but the boards can handle OCed ram to 1200 (as the highest I've seen DDR2 run stable), and theoretically even higher.
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