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Whats this talk about communism...you say communist like it is an insult. I actually like the idea of communism, it has just not been perfected in the past...or in the present (mainly due to certain dictators), but if you look at the ideals and gain a basic understanding of what communism is, you would see how great it would be if we could execute it properly. If we were communist, we would not have such a big problem with the topic at hand.

Now that i think about this post, its all politics... and know that the discussion of politics is looked down upon on OCN, but thats what all these piracy threads boil down to.
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post #52 of 106
More pirated Windows = Huge market share for Windows = Keeps Mac / Linux down.

It's all very calculated.
post #53 of 106
Isn't there a well known quote from MS that goes along the lines of: "As long as its our software they're pirating we don't mind."?
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Whats this talk about communism...you say communist like it is an insult. I actually like the idea of communism, it has just not been perfected in the past...or in the present (mainly due to certain dictators), but if you look at the ideals and gain a basic understanding of what communism is, you would see how great it would be if we could execute it properly. If we were communist, we would not have such a big problem with the topic at hand.

Now that i think about this post, its all politics... and know that the discussion of politics is looked down upon on OCN, but thats what all these piracy threads boil down to.
100% agree
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Poor analogy. Intellectual property is holding us back as a society. If we got rid of it, sure, the greedy douchebags would cry about it; but it would be so much better for society as a whole. Believe me, open source is going to dramatically change our economic system in the coming years. IP is becoming a severely outdated concept, and some groups like the RIAA are clinging desperately to a sinking ship. These groups are going to have to adapt or die off.
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Whats this talk about communism...you say communist like it is an insult. I actually like the idea of communism, it has just not been perfected in the past...or in the present (mainly due to certain dictators), but if you look at the ideals and gain a basic understanding of what communism is, you would see how great it would be if we could execute it properly. If we were communist, we would not have such a big problem with the topic at hand.

Now that i think about this post, its all politics... and know that the discussion of politics is looked down upon on OCN, but thats what all these piracy threads boil down to.
You're totally right but don't worry, some people just actually think that Soviet Communist systems are real communistic societies.

I guess it just proves that history education should be taken more seriously.
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Open source and closed source will never die. I mean you can't possibly say that if Linux became the most popular OS core, that no single company would rise to make money from it. You take an open source concept, improve upon it, offer support, a dulled down version of it for free and sell a premium and you have Red Hat. Cmon, everyone will be out there to make money. Is piracy wrong? That is for you to decide after you have laid everything out on the table.
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Wonder why they didn't use Linux.......
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post #59 of 106
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Poor analogy. Intellectual property is holding us back as a society. If we got rid of it, sure, the greedy douchebags would cry about it; but it would be so much better for society as a whole.
I never thought i would say this to you, but you are very foolish if you think that intellectual property is a bad thing. In an ideal society then yes, i.p. would be holding us back but seeing as how we will never live in an ideal society we need i.p. to protect people's investment and provide motivation to create great software.

Open source is not the future.
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Adapt to what? Start working for free and survive by eating insects and wild mushrooms?



So where does the money given in the commercial sponsorships come from?

Obviously you have a very poor idea of how economic systems work. Open source does not mean the end of software companies. Corporations like Mozilla, Google and Novell still make quite a bit of money, and provide plenty of jobs.
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I swear nothing you open-sourcers say makes any sense.
I believe you are misunderstanding what we are saying entirely.

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This is the number one excuse used by those too broke, or too cheap to just pay for other's work. According to your logic it is Ok to go into a bookstore and pick up a new novel tagged at $29.99, and then stand there in the store and take pictures of every page with your digital camera so that you can get out of paying the author of the novel for his hours and hours of work writing it.

Ridiculous.
That's a very poor analogy. Not to mention that authors get very little of the actual cover price, the publisher keeps almost all of the income.

And if you want to get out of paying for a novel that is what libraries are for. I swear, as soon as you legalistic types find out that libraries are screwing multi-billion dollar publishers out of how much money they could get, you all are gonna embark on some crusade to take down the library system and pass harsh, draconian laws on how books should be handled.
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God, you guys have a million different excuses to steal, and no reasons to do right.

But what if a meteorite hit my computer and puntured my DVD drive and it messed up my disc so I had to DL a torrent of the ISO?
Now you're just being totally pathetic.
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NO, I didn't.

Modifying closed source software FOR ANY REASON is theft. You can make up any excuse you want, whether it be legit or not, and it still isn't legal.

READ the end of my post. That is 100% sufficient as an answer, and that is all you are going to get.
Modifying closed-source software for personal use is not theft. You can scream about it all you want, but is not theft. However, distributing modified software without consent of the original creator would constitute copyright/patent infringement. Note that the keyword there is distribution.
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I never thought i would say this to you, but you are very foolish if you think that intellectual property is a bad thing. In an ideal society then yes, i.p. would be holding us back but seeing as how we will never live in an ideal society we need i.p. to protect people's investment and provide motivation to create great software.

Open source is not the future.
Wow, how ignorant. The concept of IP is terribly outdated, especially in a globalized economy. It was originally intended to protect the inventor or creator of an item, however, since then, almost all IP is claimed by a large corporation and not the individual that created it. That means they see very little, if anything, from what they have created. It's all about making as much money as possible these days, with total disregard to who may be using this item and who originally created it.

Look up the "current wars". Edison fought for a long time to keep us on a DC system, even though Tesla's AC distribution system was far superior. Edison, despite the great innovator he was, wanted us to use his inferior distribution system just so he could make more money off of it. This was in spite of the fact that a DC system was much more dangerous and costly to maintain. All that was motivated out of greed, and in fact held back electrical distribution for years.

Somehow, though, I don't think this is going to get through your thick, legalistic head, and you will simply refer to this as "foolish" as well. IP supports a world motivated by greed, something we could all live without. And your "open source is not the future" is probably one of the biggest understatements I've heard on here. You'll be eating your own words within the next decade, I can assure you that.
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