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post #21 of 29
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Wow, thats a rats nest of a case.

And as for the remount question: Don't worry about draining, the clamps should hold it just fine. The main point of the remount is (for me at least) a reapplication of TIM and to hopefully get better surface contact with the IHS.
Yes it is indeedy a rats nest

Complete chaos in there.

But since I am replacing fans, and perhaps even moving WC components around I didnt feel it necessary to tidy anything up yet. Ill take care of that later and when Im done, you wont believe its a working computer because you wont be able to find a single wire

(well, close to that anyhow hehe)
post #22 of 29
Have you really rocked your box from side to side and front to back? With your rad being higher you might still have air trapped in it, really lay it over on the sides...

A re-mount is the first thing I'll do if my temp's seem high, actually I'll do 4 or 5 re-mounts with a new block to see how good of temp's I can expect with it, then work it back to my lowest temp...

The res being by a heat source like the PSU will warm it up over time...

I cant remember the correct orientation for the Fuzion, I'm sure someone will come by who does...I see your already bottoming the springs out so it should be on there good...Make sure a cap or something on the mobo isn't keeping it from making full contact....

You'll get it going good with a little time....
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Have you really rocked your box from side to side and front to back? With your rad being higher you might still have air trapped in it, really lay it over on the sides...
Ive done everything but put it COMPLETELY upside down. Ive had this freakn thing over my head shaking it, changing positions/etc. That rocketfish case is REALLY light for a full tower case actually!!!

I might have to turn it completely upside down, but what happens when I do that is any air in the res goes down towards the inlet and gets sucked into the pump putting MORE air into the system. Any way to avoid that?

Also, do I need to drain the whole system for a CPU block remount or can I do it with the system full of water and just be very careful?

Thx guys!
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]Ive done everything but put it COMPLETELY upside down. Ive had this freakn thing over my head shaking it, changing positions/etc. That rocketfish case is REALLY light for a full tower case actually!!!
.........HaHa...I've been there and done that....

Man thats why I don't like having my res down low like that, theres just not a lot else you can do, except maybe screw a barb into your res cap hole, if it will fit and put a long piece of tubing on it, and maybe work it out like that....Does it look like there is a lot of air still trapped in it when you turn it over? There might not be that much in it anyway...It might be easier to take your rad loose and shake it to get the air out..

I always remount with coolant in it...Sometimes I'll tie a piece of string around the block so it will hang on the string instead of hanging on the tubing, I only do that if there isn't something i can lay the block up on...I'd just try a few remounts and see if that takes care of it and go from there....
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Dont want to sound like a douche since idk anything about water cooling

but why are you going to your res. after your gpu...

wouldnt you get a tank of hot water.... sureley you shud go to your rad 1st the your res
He is but if you look closely you can tell that his cooling his GPU after his D-Tek. This is normal, but I would have a seperate loop for your GPU. Thats my own opinion.

Dawgdoc I need to check you gallery out. I have the same case from BestBuy but I would have mounted that Radiator outside. I'm still waiting on mine, and I'm currently working on a custom shroud.

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post #26 of 29
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Did some more work on the loop today.

Remounted the CPU.

Repositioned the res up to the right halfway in one of the 5.25 bays.

Changed the fans on the rad to suck air IN the case from the top, repositioned the 2 120mm case fans to blow air out of the case, and added an additional 120mm fan on the floor of the case to blow air out of the bottom.

So far, after approx 45 mins on P95 small FFT Im at 60/60/58/58 and on the previous setup I was 68/68/63/63. Ambient is still 24c, and my CPU Idles are at 38/37/35/34. Yesterday idles were.....ummm Ill have to check notes but I think 44/44/42/42.

I have not had a chance to run any 3Ds yet to test GPU temps, but I idle at 35/36 now and yesterday was idling at 40/41.

Not sure which change I made helped, and not sure I care!



Still have alot more tweaking. Need to add the radshroud to improve airflow. Need to replace these crapazz Antec tricools with some D12SH-12 Yate Loons from Petras, and still have some air I need to bleed since I emptied the system out tonight and refilled it.

So far not too shabby....I still think the temps are too high on the CPU.
post #27 of 29
Am i the only one that thinks it could be low CFM fans?

*just a thought*
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post #28 of 29
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Not to argue since this IS my first WC, but I was told and have read the the PA120.3 does NOT require high flow or 38mm fans. Low flow/25mm fans are purposefully WHY I bought this rad SPECIFICALLY.

Do you disagree?
Yes. I agree

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Need to replace these crapazz Antec tricools with some D12SH-12 Yate Loons
...I also agree

Tri-cools are teh suck.. a 3yr old's farts have more pressure behind them. Your temps aer improving now..I suspect after you change the flow pattern to hit the Fusion first..then GPU, and mount the rad on the outside of your case, you will see even lower temps. [as suggested above]

*I am running the same rad as you..but have some pretty high CFM fans on it..so kinda hard to compare temps to yours.
post #29 of 29
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Fuzion IS being hit first.

Loop is RAD - > FuZion - > GTS -> Res - > D5.

Fuzion is recieving the coldest water.

Rad will never be mounted outside the case.

And here is a thought......I am running Coretemp 97.1 which lists Tjmax of 100 and not 85......

So my most recent 60C that I am quoting is ACTUALLY a 45C for comparative purposes to everyone.......CORRECT OR NOT?
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