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Hey guys, I'm a noob when it comes to overclocking and was hoping you guys can help guide me through the right way of doing it.

First of all, my system specs:
Q6600 @ 2.4GHz with a Tuniq Tower Ultra Silent Cooler
Asus P5N32-E SLI w/ latest Nforce chipset drivers
Antec NEO HE 550W PSU
2GB DDR2 RAM
Nvidia 8800GTS 640MB OC'd @ 600/900
Windows XP Pro SP2

Like I said, I am a complete noob when it comes to overclocking, right now I have my Q6600 OC'd at 10% AI through the BIOS. Pretty lame, I know. Whenever I try to OC it to 15%, it will act as if the system restarted, but just sit there with a black screen until my LCD eventually goes into power save mode. The hardware is still running (fans, etc) but there is no response. I am then forced to cold boot, and when I do the boot screen tells me there was an error and for me to enter setup to fix it. I then have to revert back to 10% as it's the only stable OC profile I can work with.

This kid I knew told me not to trust Nvmonitor, but I will provide a screenshot anyway.


According to Nvidia, "If voltage of a component is depicted with a red, the component is being overstressed--"
Even at default it shows me this.

Anyway, on my old system when I OC'd my E4300 all I had to do was increase the FSB through the BIOS. I can't even find the FSB in my new BIOS.. which has like a million different options. Only FSB I found was in frequency. Like I said, I'm a noob so please don't make fun of me if that's what I'm supposed to increase.

Anyway, I've typed a lot already, so I just want a general idea of where to start.

Thanks in advance.
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Anyway, I've typed a lot already, so I just want a general idea of where to start.

Thanks in advance.
Hello I am currently putting one of my Q6600 through it paces, but one place to start is just leaving leaving everything at Auto and just up the FSB. When it fails at a certain FSB then I start to adjust various settings like VCore, NB voltage, Vtt and GTL (Don't worry about those as I have a DFI MB).

So you need some testing software and if you don't have these you can download from the Web the following Basic tools.

1. CoreTemps or RealTemp or SpeedFan whatever your preference (I use CoreTemps)
2. Prime95 which will stress the 4 Cores
3. CPUz gives you speed of CPU and Memory
4. Memset if you want to adjust some memory settings from Windows or just see what the settings are if you ahve left them on Auto.

I just started, I ran P95 at Stock Speed 2.4GHz on Auto Voltage. Cpuz says voltage is 1.18v, you can run this on Small FFT in P95 for 3h, thats plenty.
Then up your FSB to 334 that will give you 3GHz speed, stress with P95 for 3h again
I am now at 360FSB 3.24GHz still at 1.184v, and have been running a few hours now.

Just keep increasing your FSB until failure. This method will tell you what your max speed at Stock Voltage is. When you increase your FSB, you can choose whatever increment you want, ie, up 10 FSB or 20FSB or 100 FSB depends on your comfort level and what you think your chip can do.

Some like to go the other way, stay at 2.4GHz stock speed and reduce the voltage to find the minimum voltage required to run at Stock, in this case just adjust voltage.

I am sure others will give you other ideas.
    
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Thanks for the response.

You see how you're mentioning your FSB in the hundreds? Mine is in the thousands. What gives?

I had ordered a DFI but it was dead on arrival so I got the motherboard I have now.

I will look through the manual again
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You will be doing good to get past a 1333 FSB with the Asus P5N32-E SLI. They just don't OC quads to well. best I could do when I had mine was 1333 stable, I could boot as high as 3.6 but could never get stable. Check this post it has all the info. you will need.

http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...ing-guide.html
    
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the fsb in the bios is anywhere from 200-500 usually. This is the front side bus, you multiply this by the multlier (9x on a q6600) to get the External frequency.

Eg Front side bus of 300 x Multiplier of 9 = 2700MHz, 2.7GHz

300x9=2700

edit: and i believe that FSBs are multiplied by the number of cores. So my example would be 300x4=1200Mhz (sometimes called quad pumped)

please correct me if im wrong, havent slept in ages :S
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Thanks for the response.

You see how you're mentioning your FSB in the hundreds? Mine is in the thousands. What gives?

I had ordered a DFI but it was dead on arrival so I got the motherboard I have now.

I will look through the manual again
Thats a shame with the DFI, I have used them since the AMD Opteron days and have not used anything else, they are very picky with respect to memory and the PSU.
Yes in the BIOS, I can just type the FSB that I want, ie, 266, 290, 390 whatever. So because i have this a few times now and know the potential of this chip, I just go 266, 334, 360, 370 380, 390 400 405 412 425 if I can get that far.
    
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Thanks for the link and posts guys

I'll read on and let you know if I can OC mine with stability.
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I did everything that post said We Gone. Right now I'm at 1250 FSB *divide that by 4 = 312 for each core* and it's stable so far. I'm at 2.81GHz. Core temps are giving me the same exact temps on idle. Just gotta test it on 3Dmark06 and in-game to see what's going on.

I'll try out those other programs in those links as well for further testing. I will check the stability here so if anything I can just drop back to this point which is the highest I've gotten so far.

One question though, how do I make my memory be 1T timing? In that guide, he mentioned it was faster/better. Does it really matter? I'm pretty sure he has some beastly memory.. I have some generic SuperTalent DDR2 memory, 2GB in total at 667MHz.
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You are probably gonna have a hard time getting 1T stable. It's the rare set that can do it from my understanding but the performance difference isn't anything to go wild about so no biggy if you can't do it.
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One question though, how do I make my memory be 1T timing? In that guide, he mentioned it was faster/better. Does it really matter? I'm pretty sure he has some beastly memory.. I have some generic SuperTalent DDR2 memory, 2GB in total at 667MHz.
The author of the Memory Tweeker tool Memset (Felix) says that the Command Rate is manufacturer dependent, you might want to go and ask that thread how to change it

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...te#post2839834

Just reading a little of the thread it may also be Chipset dependent, now from the DDR1 days with AMD Opteron, it always defaulted to 1T, and that was because with Opteron the on die memory controller was part of the CPU, with Intel it is not.
    
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