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The whole problem is collectivism and conservatism. People don't want gays to "fit in" like they were the exact same as everyone else because certain individuals believe they are not equal and that they are below them.
There are extremes on both sides. There are the conservatives that just don't want to accept homosexuality because it's not traditional, and then there are the radical homosexuals who are pushing this agenda for the sole purpose of attacking religion and traditionalists.

It works both ways, really; conservatism is not "the problem."
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There are extremes on both sides. There are the conservatives that just don't want to accept homosexuality because it's not traditional, and then there are the radical homosexuals who are pushing this agenda for the sole purpose of attacking religion and traditionalists.

It works both ways, really; conservatism is not "the problem."

Yeah, your right about that. I don't attack religion for the sole purpose that I envy the people that can follow it so devotedly. I can honestly not believe in something because I turn to science and reasoning for everything. I don't have that "creative" factor in my blood.

I stand my ground to traditional views because people base traditional views on the past. The "Social Machine" is always evolving and people need to learn traditional is holding back the "Social Machine" from evolving. Times are always gonna be changing and it seems sometimes it for the worse and other times it is for the better. What gives the right of "traditional" beliefs to set the bar line for those who don't have the "traditional" beliefs?
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Because the foundation of _most_ laws is religion and or moral obligations (same thing to me).
Yes, but when a law ceases to have any religious or moral backing behind it, isn't it time it is reviewed? Regardless, laws are hardly ever made based on religion in western countries.

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Yeah, your right about that. I don't attack religion for the sole purpose that I envy the people that can follow it so devotedly. I can honestly not believe in something because I turn to science and reasoning for everything. I don't have that "creative" factor in my blood.
It's funny really. I saw myself as a very logical and very science based in my beliefs however I was always envious of how happy and peaceful most religious people I knew were simply because they believed. Hell if I have to believe in something to be happy so be it.
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We are separate, but equal.
Not that so much as different. Apples and oranges aren't equal or inequal. Just different.
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It's funny really. I saw myself as a very logical and very science based in my beliefs however I was always envious of how happy and peaceful most religious people I knew were simply because they believed. Hell if I have to believe in something to be happy so be it.
Personally, I don't see the allure in following stricture of any kind, whether it's religious stricture or scientific. While I tend to lean more towards the scientific and logical aspects of thought, I've (somehow) found peace with the fact that there are just some things that humans won't ever know and probably ought not to know. People on both sides tend to overanalyze things and vehemently argue their rightness against each others' virtues, even though we as humans can only define what is right from a biased point of view.

Sometimes, not knowing is a lot better than knowing. Knowing everything would get boring after a while, wouldn't you think?
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