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Macs are for people that don't really know anything about computers because if you can build computers, you would probably never buy a mac. I have a macbook pro, because i love a lot of things about it, and I got it for a very good price. If I had to pay the full 2k + for a 17" laptop, I would never have bought one. As I said, macs have their uses and for a lot of people, they fit the bill, but for very few computer enthusiasts would us a mac as their primary computer.
I knew how to build computers when I bought my MPB. I still stand by that purchase 100%



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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner View Post
Replace where he said "and" in that statement with "or," and you'll take much more kindly to what he said

I'm sure that's what he meant to say anyway.



I agree. I, for one, am not going to let a bunch of silly commercials stop me from enjoying a fantastic product.



The OS has an "ease of use" nature. I find OSX to be the easiest OS of which to grasp concept. It is to OS as Spanish is to language.



Yep. Check out my comparisons in the thread "40% of college students said they plan to buy a Mac." I did 3 comparisons, and the only laptop that was significantly cheaper than an exactly comparable MacBook was a Lenovo. The Dell was more expensive, and the HP was cheaper by only about 100 bucks. Consider the fact that the PC laptops are going to come with crapware and adware, and maybe the price will start to sound a bit more reasonable.



Correct. Most people don't consider that Apple computers are of "different design." You almost always pay more for a non-standard design (a design that's not a tower). And then there is the fact that everything Apple offers uses LAPTOP components to fit everything in such small packages. The Mac Mini isn't comparable to your desktop or my desktop because our desktops use desktop components. Same applies for the iMac.



I agree with that. Apple offers something for both sides.



True. With that said, Apple doesn't really offer anything comparable to a "regular" desktop. Its desktops use laptop parts, and its workstation uses server parts. Nothing Apple offers uses "regular" desktop components.



Yes, to you. That's why you have a choice. When it comes to Apple, most things are like that: you either like it or you don't. Kinda black and white, but again, that's why you have a choice whether or not to buy it. Sounds like it wouldn't suit you in the end, so I couldn't recommend one.



I'm actually finding this to be more and more true. I've been visiting Mac forums lately, and I find lots of people becoming "insulted" when anything Mac is questioned. "Why does windows have this feature but OSX doesn't?" is a question sometimes asked. The joblets come to the rescue and retort, "Why don't you just go back to stupid windows then?" It's disgusting. There are even old-time Mac users (from the PPC days) that think of themselves as "indigenous," and they talk this way to "switchers" (post-intel-Mac release) as if they are better.

So I agree, what a shame lots of the user base has such inflated egos... lol



Do you know what you're talking about? The only Mac with server components is the Mac Pro. And there is a very good reason for this. Mac Pros are used for commercial workstations. Businesses depend on these computers. Just ask Marin, whose father owns an ad agency. Server components provide enhanced reliability. There is a REASON, my friend.



Nope, it costs $34:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231147

But only if you're smart like me and do it yourself



Alright, stop right there. You already skimped on the OS, so it's already an uneven comparison.

Visit the thread "40% of college students said they plan to buy a Mac." I did 3 comparisons, each using a different brand, to a MacBook middle model. The Dell ended up a few bucks more expensive than the MB, the HP was about $100 cheaper, and the Lenovo was the only one significantly less expensive than the Mac. I did an exact spec-for-spec comparison; no one else around here knows how to do that. I made the specs the control of the experiment and the price the variable, and I came to the conclusion using the scientific method that Macs are not insanely overpriced.



Look, I know you're a fanatic apple-basher, but try to see it this way:

Do you really think it's all about the commercials? Is there no other reason someone would want a Mac?

Isn't it possible that someone might actually like the Mac OS and the software it comes with enough to pay a little extra?
A lot of your quotes said they were form me....and they weren't?
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Pretty sure this thread is supposed to be for discussing the shutdown of openmac, not whether or not it is worth it to purchase an Apple product.
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post #33 of 67
It's still on their site, so it obviously isn't shut down yet.

What Apple should do is release the next OS X for PCs as well. If they did that they could easily get a market share equal to Windows.
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Pretty sure this thread is supposed to be for discussing the shutdown of openmac, not whether or not it is worth it to purchase an Apple product.
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Are macs overpriced? Yes. But do they perform ? Yes.

How many people do you hear rant about poor quality in their comptuers and laptops ?

oh, you don't.

I don't own a mac and probably never will but all I've heard about Macs are good things.
Quit the flame ****.
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I love how this is an argument about OS X and how Apple is evil when they are shutting down a company who is illegally using their products.

Are you all just oblivious to how the world works? This thread reminds me of the absolute morons saying that patents should be abolished. Communism never works.
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A lot of your quotes said they were form me....and they weren't?
Oh, no... I must have messed up while copying/pasting... I will fix that.

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It's still on their site, so it obviously isn't shut down yet.
The site had been down for some period of time, and it wasn't clear whether or not it was because of Apple's intervention. It was speculated that Apple had threatened them, but it remains unknown at this time.

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What Apple should do is release the next OS X for PCs as well. If they did that they could easily get a market share equal to Windows.
They'd be at m$'s mercy if they did that... The MacOS would be out loose for any computer, and m$ would be able to just rush and tell every 3rd party, "Hey, we'll give you a trillion bucks if you make your stuff incompatible with their product!" Then the MacOS gets zero compatibility, Apple loses its hardware sales (because who wants Apple hardware?), and there goes Apple.

I doubt it would happen, anyway. Apple likes being in control of their hardware/software combo. It's less problems for them, less problems for the users who purchase their products.
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Psystar is correct. That is an illegal EULA. And such, should be broken and discarded.
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Oh, no... I must have messed up while copying/pasting... I will fix that.



The site had been down for some period of time, and it wasn't clear whether or not it was because of Apple's intervention. It was speculated that Apple had threatened them, but it remains unknown at this time.



They'd be at m$'s mercy if they did that... The MacOS would be out loose for any computer, and m$ would be able to just rush and tell every 3rd party, "Hey, we'll give you a trillion bucks if you make your stuff incompatible with their product!" Then the MacOS gets zero compatibility, Apple loses its hardware sales (because who wants Apple hardware?), and there goes Apple.

I doubt it would happen, anyway. Apple likes being in control of their hardware/software combo. It's less problems for them, less problems for the users who purchase their products.
The site is online now though, and it still has the Open Computer with Leopard. It was probably just traffic.

And I'm not going to argue about what would happen to Apple if they did that. Neither of us can predict the future, can we?
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Psystar is claiming its a monopoly WHEN IT IS NOT.

What they are doing is illegal, they are making false claims now to try to convince people that Apple is wrong for this, done and done.
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