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Seagate was talking a big game last month about how SSD makers like Samsung and Intel were infringing its patents, and the company wasn't joking around, following up all that tough talk with... what appears to be a test case against relatively minor vendor STEC. Seagate says STEC's drives violate four patents it holds on SSD interfaces and that while "it's not a big financial issue yet," the company wants "to set things straight." As you'd expect, STEC doesn't feel quite as casual about the situation, saying that it's been making SSDs since 1994, before any of Seagate's patents were filed, and that it's going to aggressively defend Seagate's "desperate" claims and seek to invalidate its patents. many of which it believes aren't even relevant to SSD technology. That sounds like a fight to us -- get ready for some nonstop paperwork legal thrills, people.
Via Engadget

Original NYT Article
STEC's Response

Strange choice to go after IMO given that STEC has a huge time lead on Seagate. Through this whole thing I just want to know what Seagate really has patented. Every news piece I've seen describes their patents as being related to the interface for SSD's rather than SSD's themselves.
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Since I own stock in Seagate, I'll be watching closely. I don't think the stock price currently reflects much value in SSD patents, so this is probably all upside for stockholders.
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This amazes me. I worked for Storage Tek in the late '80's and they were shipping solid state storage devices even back then. I will have to dig to find out what their patent claim is...
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Well either way, respect to Seagate.

A) They could lose, but it doesn't mean they didn't genuinely think the company was violating their patent. And at least they chose to do it in an early stage (*cough* Ultra *cough*)

They did state they just wanted to set things straight. At least they aren't waiting and letting the money build up

B) They could win, which would mean they were right. But at least they would not be in it for the profit. Just protecting their patents.
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Well either way, respect to Seagate.

B) They could win, which would mean they were right. But at least they would not be in it for the profit. Just protecting their patents.
Seagate has previously stated that their aim is to derail the SDD market. They don't want to get into SSD's and they hold patents that they believe will prevent anybody else from furthering the market. So no, no respect to Seagate
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Seagate has previously stated that their aim is to derail the SDD market. They don't want to get into SSD's and they hold patents that they believe will prevent anybody else from furthering the market. So no, no respect for Seagate
Why would anyone want to prevent technology progressing?

Do you have a link to any of this, i am not discrediting the information. I am just interested in it

*slap* bad seagate!
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Why would anyone want to prevent technology progressing?

Do you have a link to any of this, i am not discrediting the information. I am just interested in it

*slap* bad seagate!
Not a problem - I can hardly believe it myself.

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Solid-state hard drives, or SSDs, have been the talk of the storage market for months, but Seagate CEO Bill Watkins still isn't worried that flash-based primary storage solutions pose any kind of threat to Seagate or the HDD market as a whole. In the short term, he's certainly correct—the enormous price delta between SSDs and conventional HDDs isn't going to melt away overnight—but his prediction seems less likely when viewed over the long term. Watkins, however, is prepared for such a threat, even if he views it as unlikely.

Watkins' solution? Patents. As first reported by Fortune, Watkins feels confident that the SSD drives currently on the market violate some of the patents Seagate has in the drive industry, and he's apparently willing to back such statements with lawsuits if and when SSDs seem poised to cut too deeply into the HDD market.

This is rather depressing news for innovators, particularly when it comes from the CEO of a major player in the storage market. Patent litigation (or the threat of it) is a fact of life, but boldly stepping forward and declaring an intent to sue one's competition for innovating rarely engenders investor or consumer faith in a company's core competency. Seagate has made plans to enter the SSD business in 2008, probably with an enterprise drive, but Watkins and other top-level executives at Seagate have repeatedly stated that they believe SSD products will ultimately be confined to a niche market.
Via Ars Technica

An extremely shortsighted opinion (much more idiotic than the 640k comment) combined with an expressed desire to halt innovation in its tracks. Bad seagate is right
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It makes perfect sense to go after the little dog. If they loose out due to the timing of their patent filings to this company they can't exact as heavy a toll financially nor can this company drag this out in court due to the expenditures necessary. If this crap is true about Seagate wishing to stifle the SSD market it will come out in court...I hope.
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Wow, i seriously cannot believe how low that it. I have no idea what to say except for....monopolistic? rep+ for the extra information.
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They did state they just wanted to set things straight. At least they aren't waiting and letting the money build up

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The longer a company waits to enforce a patent, the less likely it will be enforced. At least that is how it has played out in the past. A company that sits on a patent waiting to enforce it until there is lots of money to be made will likely either lose the patent or the claim will be reduced because of this. I know there is a legal term for it and it even came up during the blackberry lawsuit...


Laches! That's it! It came from the Patent Misuse Amendment in 1988;

http://books.google.com/books?id=tWq...hl=en#PPT57,M1
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