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yes yes I know...I've been buggin the crap outta you guys for the past few days with neverending onslaughts of questions.

I got a HUGE wad of cash but I have to spend it WISELY...meaning I am only going to put about 500 or so to a WC'ed gaming pc.

Going to be using a hdd, video card, outta my current rig.....

SO.....

My big question is processor...I read one thing and then read another and I'm just to the point where I can't decide...I've been told an AMD 5000+ would be good etc....I kinda want it to last a year or more so I'm thinking quad core, but as you all know everything changes so quickly in this game that by this time next year we might be going after something else....

So....If I'm going quad core, I got the q6600 and the AMD 9850, which one will be the victor in the end....I play alot of FPS games and some MMO games too I do some movie editing here and there, and this machine might host some games here and there also.

So guys which processor will be the best one for me....from what I've seen the q6600 but I've also heard the amd counter part does well in gaming. So I'm throwing my hands up in dispare at this point, I want it to be a noticable increase from my current rig, REPS all around for your info in this matter!

oh....going to get another 8800 gts to run in sli keep that in mind too....thanks again guys!

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here's a wise choice if ur mobo supports AM2/+ update the bios to accept a spider B3 phenom. u wanna w/c well that should take a good chunck of change depending on what u want to cool.
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Well, since you already have an AMD mobo (if it is supported), get a Phenom. You might also take a look at the GT/GTS (g92) for SLI.
    
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If you've got $500 to buy a watercooling kit, and a PC, that really doesn't leave much. A good watercooling kit can cost $300 or more. The quad core CPU will be over $200. I'd advise you to stick with air for now since the tight budget.

Processor wise....
I hate to say it, but since you're buying new, the Intel Q6600 would be the quad core to get right now. The AMD's are finally starting to play catch up, but the Intel is still beating the AMD clock for clock, and it overclocks further.

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I'm saying this because based off your sig rig, you're on a Socket 939, which doesn't support quads. I could be wrong on that of course, but I do believe Manchester CPU's were 939 only.
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Hey, I don't want to start the AMD/Intel fight, but RIGHT NOW intel is the better choice by far.
I'm hoping AMD starts getting with the program, cause it's always better to have a competitive choice and right now there isn't one.
BTW if you're into FPS games you might be better off with an E8400/E8500.
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yes yes I know...I've been buggin the crap outta you guys for the past few days with neverending onslaughts of questions.

I got a HUGE wad of cash but I have to spend it WISELY...meaning I am only going to put about 500 or so to a WC'ed gaming pc.

Going to be using a hdd, video card, outta my current rig.....

SO.....

My big question is processor...I read one thing and then read another and I'm just to the point where I can't decide...I've been told an AMD 5000+ would be good etc....I kinda want it to last a year or more so I'm thinking quad core, but as you all know everything changes so quickly in this game that by this time next year we might be going after something else....

So....If I'm going quad core, I got the q6600 and the AMD 9850, which one will be the victor in the end....I play alot of FPS games and some MMO games too I do some movie editing here and there, and this machine might host some games here and there also.

So guys which processor will be the best one for me....from what I've seen the q6600 but I've also heard the amd counter part does well in gaming. So I'm throwing my hands up in dispare at this point, I want it to be a noticable increase from my current rig, REPS all around for your info in this matter!

oh....going to get another 8800 gts to run in sli keep that in mind too....thanks again guys!

laterz
If your going to get a whole new system, and you want to run SLI.. I would get the Q6600 from your choices and get the EVGA NF78-A1 nForce 780i board.

Hope this helps out, I was in the same thing you are in, i decided to get what I got now, see siggy!!
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Q6600 vs. 9850BE is very close by the sound of things - if your into overclocking then the AMD choice because it's new, not very well proven and you will have more fun overclocking it because of that fact, if you go with Q6600 then everythings guarenteed and not much fun at all. But to pick between them just do ip-dip-do, lol - i've heard people getting 3.3Ghz on air, water 3.6Ghz and that's with unmatured BIOSs, IMO overclocking gets better with new BIOSs when a chip has just come out
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If you've got $500 to buy a watercooling kit, and a PC, that really doesn't leave much. A good watercooling kit can cost $300 or more. The quad core CPU will be over $200. I'd advise you to stick with air for now since the tight budget.

Processor wise....
I hate to say it, but since you're buying new, the Intel Q6600 would be the quad core to get right now. The AMD's are finally starting to play catch up, but the Intel is still beating the AMD clock for clock, and it overclocks further.

EDIT:
I'm saying this because based off your sig rig, you're on a Socket 939, which doesn't support quads. I could be wrong on that of course, but I do believe Manchester CPU's were 939 only.

Your right, it's a 939, and will be retired to serving and hosting files on my network and services for my guild\\clan etc. I've been leaning towards the Q6600 (I HATE that I am but I am) and we could probably give or take 200 bux on the amount of money I have right now, this is going to be a build up gradual build up system since I'm making a case for the mod competition. So I'll be building this over the course of the next month or two.....I've read, from the forums that Intel is going to be dropping prices on the 20th of this month...I just wonder how much they are going to drop.

Quote:
If your going to get a whole new system, and you want to run SLI.. I would get the Q6600 from your choices and get the EVGA NF78-A1 nForce 780i board.
What about the Asus Striker, XFX, and other boards, I would perfer a DFI, I love this board to death! I LOVE the fact that that EVGA board can go tri-sli, that sounds really interesting!.

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BTW if you're into FPS games you might be better off with an E8400/E8500
Yeah I've noticed alot of benchmarks in mags etc show the dual core processors blowing the quads outta the water in some games, but I also think most of thoes games are DX9, so the future factor sets in and makes me wonder about the near future with DX10, I know I've heard different stories about Crysis using all 4 cores, but why when they bench mark it the dual cores are still whippin up on quad cores a$$. And I also look at some of the software they are using to benchmark these processors and IMHO these programs are benchmarking the quads right.

I guess right now unless I read something else that puts me into another spin I'm in a holding pattern until the 20th to see what that price drop is going to be, I know frys had it for $190 but I'm holding out to see if the price drops anymore.

And of course I'm going to have more questions for you guys especially since I haven't delt with some of the new stuff like this high clocked ram etc...I guess I haven't worn out my welcome yet here, sorry I just analize everything too much, I just hope you all don't get tired of me asking questions.....

thanks a BUNCH again guys....


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Honestly you cant go wrong with the Q6600 G0, I switched to Intel earlier this year from my old Skt939 rig and I was amazed by how easy this chip hit 3.6 stable. It seemed way too easy, kinda made me miss the challenge my Opty gave me to hit 3ghz

If you know the basics on ocing a Skt939, Intel 775 wont be much of a issue
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Honestly you cant go wrong with the Q6600 G0, I switched to Intel earlier this year from my old Skt939 rig and I was amazed by how easy this chip hit 3.6 stable. It seemed way too easy, kinda made me miss the challenge my Opty gave me to hit 3ghz

If you know the basics on ocing a Skt939, Intel 775 wont be much of a issue
Lol, I remember your pains with your Opty. As a matter of fact, I'm still subscribed to that thread, lol.

And yes I'd have to agree, the e8400 would be the CPU to get right now as they tend to hit 4.0GHz easy and blow anything AMD has out of the water (at those speeds). Don't get me wrong, I love AMD...check my list of rigs if you don't believe me. But they just aren't performing near Intel right now, which is sad. Either way you go, I'm sure you'll end up with a killer rig. Try not to be a "fanboy". Just go with whoever has the best out when you buy...right now that's Intel with the e8400 or Q6600. I'd only choose the quad if you plan on doing some heavy multitasking. For a main gaming rig, I'd go with the dual core. And if you do go Intel.....don't forget where you came from (looks at the 939 in your system). I hate it when people switch and then forget that AMD is still alive, lol.

Anyways, good luck with your new rig...I have new parts myself that just arrived that I'm eager to play with.
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