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Ok i've been using dell, gateway and e-machines computers and have deicided to build my own and have no clue where to start. I don't game alot so that is a high priority. I want to start out basic and be able to upgrade to better, but want to start out with a good case and board and such so i won't have to change it later for awhile. I mainly due multi tasking, converting making moives and alout of burning. Haven't been into gaming real big on pc due to the fact of not having a good rig. As for a case i would like to go with something like http://www.directcanada.com/products...nufacture=XION that with alot of space, led fans, window, lights all or like a alienware style case. I want to be able to overclock also if possible and keep the budget around 300 maybe 400 or less than 300 just to get it up and running for now and upgrade as i go. Also i would like to use vista. I have a emachines w3609 that i can use parts of if possible or if they are any count. I got enough hard drive space in the emachines like 370gb's so i wouldn't need that. Cept that the one hard drive the 250gb use the odler grey colored cords not sure of technical name and the 120gb uses the newer style plugins that i have no clue as to what the are. I'd also like use my card reader in the emcahines or a different one. Any this is the spec's on the emachines and i know it's not a good computer period. http://www.e4me.com/products/products.html?prod=W3609 So can some1 help me out.. thanks
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Please let me know your location. Your profile says US, but you post a link to a Canadian vendor. Are you in Canada or the US?
    
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post #3 of 16
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i also like this case and would rather have is it any good? http://www.xoxide.com/xoxide-alien-x-case.html or maybe this one http://www.xoxide.com/aspire-x-plore...ack-black.html . I want something more less futuristic looking with blue lighting thanks.
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us i was just saying i liked the case sorry about the confusion
post #5 of 16
Your spending alot of money on a case to be honest if your budget is so small..however, I would recommend getting a case you REALLY like now and spend a little more for it, then you can just upgrade the internal parts in the future rather then the whole thing.
    
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post #6 of 16
All three cases are fairly similar in quality imo.

This will be a rig in phases, and the first phase will be around $300 - $400 as far I understand. We'll have to use a LOT of parts of the old e-machines, since I think you should build a very good basis. The parts to get right now are:

- Case: which is mostly a matter of preference.
- PSU: DO NOT skimp here. This is most likely the most important investment in this first step.
- Motherboard: There are plenty good, inexpensive boards out there
- OS: unfortunately, with the new system, you'll need to buy another OS. The license that came with the eMachines will be invalidated as soon as you buy a new motherboard.
- Video card: Get a cheap one for now, and upgrade later. I do recommend dedicated though, even a crappy one, as opposed to onboard.

Some suggestions:
Total $373.95

Parts to be re-used from the ol' eMachines:
- CPU (I know... celeron)
- RAM (unfortunately)
- HDD's (not too bad actually. 120GB SATA and 250GB IDE)
- Optical drive(s)

Now, if you happen to have a legal version of an OS laying around, I'd recommend to use the money saved there for RAM:
G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 $79.99
    
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post #7 of 16
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i allready have vista ultimate and basic discs. and also a xp one so i won't need that. I want memory so i won't skimp on that will get atleast i had my moms aspire apart and noticed the board had 4 slots for memory what does that mean? Could you use say 4x2gb sticks. It has 512mb ones in it in only two slots. I would like to have something like that for a board. i have two other computer with dvd burners and such that i will use that is practically brand new. I can work with the budget though i just want to buy this and that say every month. Basically i was going to take the cpu and memory out of the e-machines for now. i like the looks of the allen case so i will go with that but you got 19.99 for it in which it would be 49.99. Does that motherboard support overclocking?
post #8 of 16
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can i also use the psu out of the emachines for say what you listed for now and then when i go to a better cpu, video card, and what ever else upgrade it then? Or would it be pushing the cpu when i would over clock it and all. What you listed is what i want to buy this month then next month buy some more and more.
post #9 of 16
Sorry about the typo in the case price

My updated list:
Total $383.95

Re-use from your old computer(s)

Parts to be re-used from the ol' eMachines:
- CPU (I know... celeron)
- HDD's (not too bad actually. 120GB SATA and 250GB IDE)
- Optical drive(s)
- keyboard/mouse
- monitor

This will give you a GREAT start.

Notes:
- Yes, that gigabyte motherboard is quite a nice overclocker. no problem there.
- You *could* indeed go for 4 x 2GB RAM, but at this moment, there is no reason to. Settle for 2 x 2GB RAM, as I suggested above, and enjoy. It's more than plenty. Do know you need to install the 64-bit version of Vista to use 4GB.
- The parts I suggested for your first phase are all good, and do support overclocking.
- The next step is to save up for a new CPU. I'd go for a Quad Core Intel CPU, and do expect to spend at least $200 on that.

DO NOT re-use the PSU. The PSU should be the FIRST item to replace. You don't want to blow up all that fance new hardware
    
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post #10 of 16
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no i didn't know about the 64bit. whats the difference int 32 and 64? I got another ? but will pm you and see what you think.
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