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I am talking about the hard drive setting.

What exactly is the risk of data loss?
I do not keep anything super critical on my computer and say i only lose power once every couple months when its on would the performance i gain be worth it? or can it cause great problems?
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anyone?
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You lose power at all? You should have a battery backup! They are cheap! You have a quad!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...01317&name=APC

That's all I can say though.. sorry. Bump?
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well when i lose power i normally lose it for a good hour or 2 not 5 min, and 99% of the time i am playing games or something rather then working on anything important.

Also i don't really know what specs i would need in a power supply.
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The point of UPS is so you can shut down the system properly in the event of a power outage. If you want to keep using the PC during an outage, buy a generator.

Anyway, if something is being written to the (which happens quite frequenly), with "advanced performance" on, and system power fails, it's lost data. Most of the time this won't do anything significant, but it could potentially kill windows, or other programs.

The chance of this happening is fairly significant, in my experience with similar things. A very rough guess would be that you would have a 10-20% chance of noticing a significant problem per power failure. Less if the system is idle, more if it's doing somthing important.
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Loss of data depends on several factors. I am not at stake to say as I am not experienced. I have had the same hard drive for the last 2 years. My friend has a hard drive die on him every other month. I would asume there are several factors to hard drive life cycle. I would say the most important factor in a hard drives LONGER LIFESPAN would be Heat. If you have a fan cooling your hard drive at all time it should be fine. Also once in a while running CHKDSK will help it clean errors. Also defrag it once in a while. I can not begin to stress anything more than matinence. I cant spell because Im tired. Anyway just keep it cool. and check it once and a while. I hope I helped you in any way.. Good day!
post #7 of 8
It can be very dangerous. It's happened to me multiple times that I lost power and ended up with files the exact same size, but they were filled with zeroed bytes.

I actually never made the connection until I read this thread. Vista's Shadow Copies and programs that do auto backups periodically saved me every single time, though, so it wasn't really bothering me.

In any case, just use a different partition for your OS and don't use this setting on it to prevent critical data loss.

Also, if you turn this on, do yourself a big favor... when you work on something even a little bit time consuming, make sure you make backups every 5 mins or so...

It can be very, very frustrating when this happens and you don't have a backup. Also, I've ended up with zeroed files even when the program wasn't saving.
Just having a program open seems to put the file you're working on at risk.

I've had this happen to videos, Aegisub scripts, Avisynth scripts (editing with AvsP), plain text (notepad and gvim), and Firefox bookmarks.
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post #8 of 8
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Alright ty for all the replys, i am just gonna leave it off, i turned it on and ran some hd benchmarks(hdtune) and then again with it off and the difference was only about 1mb/s.(does that seem right or should it be more?)

What ended up being real different was the graph was a lot more smooth and didn't have very steep valleys
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