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In the world of the PC, you'd have to be both blind and deaf to miss last week's riveting drama that became known instantly as the "NVIDIA and Intel Battle". In nearly back to back swings, both Intel and NVIDIA executives landed metaphorical punches to the gut of one another in attempt to show analysts, stock holders and, we assume they still matter, PC users, why their companies are going to be the technology leaders for the future computing. There were days of bickering between NVIDIA and Intel and though we'll hold our opinions on the particulars of this battle for another day, there was one surprising omission from the debate:

AMD.

Yes the company is having financial difficulties that many have used as bait for a potential takeover or buy out, but I am going to spend this time to discuss why I think both Intel and NVIDIA are overlooking a still-competitive opponent which could turn out to be a drastic mistake.
Source: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=547
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It goes like this:

Intel stops supporting nVidia hardware with nehalem, nVidia loses
Intel releases Larrabee, which flops like every last Intel graphics solution ever made, Intel loses
Intel's nehalem destroys AMD's CPU offerings, AMD subsequently folds, emerges as ATI
ATI = Win.


If only AMD hadn't bought ATI, they would have gone bankrupt and Intel could have continued their affair with ATI and slammed the door in nVidia's face...
    
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
It goes like this:

Intel stops supporting nVidia hardware with nehalem, nVidia loses
Intel releases Larrabee, which flops like every last Intel graphics solution ever made, Intel loses
Intel's nehalem destroys AMD's CPU offerings, AMD subsequently folds, emerges as ATI
ATI = Win.


If only AMD hadn't bought ATI, they would have gone bankrupt and Intel could have continued their affair with ATI and slammed the door in nVidia's face...
Thats a pretty hateful anti-Nvidia comment.

Competition has always been good for consumers, but I dont think this is the good kind....
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
It goes like this:

Intel stops supporting nVidia hardware with nehalem, nVidia loses
Intel releases Larrabee, which flops like every last Intel graphics solution ever made, Intel loses
Intel's nehalem destroys AMD's CPU offerings, AMD subsequently folds, emerges as ATI
ATI = Win.


If only AMD hadn't bought ATI, they would have gone bankrupt and Intel could have continued their affair with ATI and slammed the door in nVidia's face...
If AMD folds so does ATI.
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Like it or not, we definitely don't want to see any of these three (and a half?) companies fail. I do not think any of them are so kind that a lack of competition will keep them putting out fast products at good prices.

And I agree that Intel and Nvidia (especially Nvidia) would be foolish to ignore AMD as a serious competitor at this stage. It doesn't seem like Intel is doing that given their rather impressive-sounding upcoming releases, but Nvidia appears to be taking the piss for the moment, which could cost them later.
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Intel stops supporting nVidia hardware with nehalem, nVidia loses
The Intel chipset won't support SLI with nehalem, but the Nvidia chipset will.
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IMO, it would be easier for AMD to catch up with nVidia than with Intel. Intel is so much ahead AMD, but AMD has very good offerings on the graphics front. But IMO, ATi would be better off if it hadn't been bought by AMD. Just before it was bought, it ALWAYS had the top performer card (9800XT of the 9xxx series, X850XT PE of the X8xx series, X1950XTX of the X1K series).

Besides, AMD`s graphics cards don't lose that much to nVidia's offerings, and have good pricing.
    
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Originally Posted by nathris View Post
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Intel stops supporting nVidia hardware with nehalem, nVidia loses
Intel releases Larrabee, which flops like every last Intel graphics solution ever made, Intel loses
Intel's nehalem destroys AMD's CPU offerings, AMD subsequently folds, emerges as ATI
ATI = Win.


If only AMD hadn't bought ATI, they would have gone bankrupt and Intel could have continued their affair with ATI and slammed the door in nVidia's face...
Intel would never be stupid enough to stop supporting nVidia hardware unless Larrabee was the second coming of both Christ and Buddha. Larrabee is Intel's way of setting a scope on the future, not their way of phasing out of the CPU market.

ATI will not emerge from AMD. ATI is long gone. The company now succeeds and fails as one.

I'm not sure where this article gets the idea the nVidia has been "ignoring" AMD. Really. Every single card nVidia has released since the 8800Ultra has been to compete with an offering from AMD.
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post #9 of 14
You are all wrong.

NVIDIA and AMD/ATI goes bankrupt and one company comes back from the ashes of NVIDIA....














I'm joking... but we can dream...
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The Intel chipset won't support SLI with nehalem, but the Nvidia chipset will.
Not if Intel doesn't give Nvidia rights to CSI.... If that does happen, Nvidia will only make chipsets for Via and AMD and SLI GPUs for AMD (and remotely Via? )
    
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