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odd because I do it for a fact
When Im all mad and really wanting to punch a hole through the wall - going onto my CSS server and reaking havok with headshots left and right soothes me.
QFT, but for me its Halo
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The Link is a little bit messed up >_> You fixed it yay!
Yeah, had some issues. What I tried to do was link the actual video, but these forums dont allow for HTML coding. Then I tried to find a youtube video to no avail.

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I actually don't find this to be true.
Really? Care to elaborate?

I'm glad I found a topic that you guys liked, and thanks for the rep.
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This is basically the best argument yet. Probably one we all used at one time or another too.
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I actually don't find this to be true.
I'm with this guy. Video games are not preventing kids from shooting each other in class... Does it sound stupid to any of you?

    
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Really? Care to elaborate?
Actually, I don't. I simply think that if you need a video game to "take out your anger," you have some problems.

I play video games because they're fun. Not to kill people, not to be angry, not to take out anger or any of that. I play video games because video games are fun; that's all.

So even if you disagree with me, hopefully you can see what my experience has led me to believe.
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Actually, I don't. I simply think that if you need a video game to "take out your anger," you have some problems.

I play video games because they're fun. Not to kill people, not to be angry, not to take out anger or any of that. I play video games because video games are fun; that's all.

So even if you disagree with me, hopefully you can see what my experience has led me to believe.
So, you don't care to elaborate, yet you go ahead and elaborate? :

Like the video stated, most games are not to be considered video games, rather, simulations which gives the user the sense as if it is reality. Allowing the person to release some anger through an outlet that is easily accessible and won't do any real physical damage.

Nobody is saying that you should only play games to release emotions, I havn't the faintest idea why you think that games were meant solely for this purpose. There are a number of reasons as to why people play video games, and this is discussed in the article.

Even if you play video games with the sole intention of "having fun", it generally entails some sort of gratification, rush of excitement etc. Whether intentional or not, you are experiancing these feelings and it indirectly can be considered an outlet.
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Actually, I don't. I simply think that if you need a video game to "take out your anger," you have some problems.

I play video games because they're fun. Not to kill people, not to be angry, not to take out anger or any of that. I play video games because video games are fun; that's all.

So even if you disagree with me, hopefully you can see what my experience has led me to believe.
I agree with you. I'm sure drinking, beating others, cutting your self, and many other dangerous things are much better way to vent. Don't you?

It depends on how you look at things. People take out their anger in many vasts different ways. There is nothing written in stone that says you have to do it this way. Some people count to 10, others take a nap, and some go on a shooting spree. Video games is only a subtle and yet safe way to do it. Things can be much worse. Look at children's parents for example. Some parents will be their kids because they are mad at something else. I don't know about you, but i rather have that person take their anger out in a video game then on an innocent child. And you cannot deny the fact that some parents beat their children when they have done nothing but because they are mad at someone else they can't beat.

If a video game can help you vent then more power to you because it just may stop that one person from going over the top because they can not find an avenue to release their frustration.

Keep this in mind Hundred, it's always better to have a way to vent that hurts no one then no way at all. That can lead to negative outcomes.

No one likes pain unless you have a fetish. Besides who are we to say what is normal? We can judge whats good from bad and right from wrong, but thats still a subjective argument based on your up bringing. But venting through a video is gonna help society a lot more then pulling a columbine or shooting someone.
    
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Interesting that games seem to have become an social status symbol, which affect children in so many different ways.

Yet Video game violence is just one aspect which might lead to violence, at least i don't blame BF2 for making Auvinen do what he did here in Jokela.

Everything affects everything, it's good to see that different researches are made on this topic. Certainly yelling that "Video games are bad because they are bad" doesn't make the situation any better.

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Actually, I don't. I simply think that if you need a video game to "take out your anger," you have some problems.
I don't get it, why would that mean someone has problems? It's no different than someone running, resting, or going out for drive to vent anger. Sometimes I have very stressful days, and in the end all I want to do is relax turn on my PC and play a game, it's a stress reliever for me, I don't see a problem with that and I don't see how anyone would have a problem with that.
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I agree with you. I'm sure drinking, beating others, cutting your self, and many other dangerous things are much better way to vent. Don't you?
This is a fallacy of logic in which it is said that one event must inevitably follow another. It's called Slippery Slope.

I'm going to consider the following and reply to it all in one:

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Keep this in mind Hundred, it's always better to have a way to vent that hurts no one then no way at all. That can lead to negative outcomes.
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I don't get it, why would that mean someone has problems? It's no different than someone running, resting, or going out for drive to vent anger. Sometimes I have very stressful days, and in the end all I want to do is relax turn on my PC and play a game, it's a stress reliever for me, I don't see a problem with that and I don't see how anyone would have a problem with that.
Yes, you guys are right. I probably rushed a bit by saying what I said.

What I mean overall is that I don't like hearing all this "it's my vent" excuse all the time. It's WAY overused, and it makes games sound like a bad thing to others. The freaks who want to banish games get to say, "Oh, see? See? Angry people play games; we should be very careful with them." And it keeps that bad aura over the gaming community.

So I think to defend video games, people need to start saying a bit more than "It helps me vent my anger."



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So, you don't care to elaborate, yet you go ahead and elaborate? :
Eh... I didn't want to elaborate, meaning I wasn't going to go into a deep discussion; I just gave my own quick anecdote, not any particular facts.

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Like the video stated, most games are not to be considered video games, rather, simulations which gives the user the sense as if it is reality. Allowing the person to release some anger through an outlet that is easily accessible and won't do any real physical damage.
That's kinda what I'm saying. What does that mean? That means that people are thinking some insane violent thoughts and they need it to be as real as possible to "get high" (yes, a bit of an exaggeration). That gives the opposing side ammunition.

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Nobody is saying that you should only play games to release emotions,
Yes, I said that

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I havn't the faintest idea why you think that games were meant solely for this purpose.
I don't

I said I play games because they're fun. I didn't say they're solely for "releasing emotions."

You got something a little wrong there.

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Even if you play video games with the sole intention of "having fun", it generally entails some sort of gratification, rush of excitement etc.
Of course...

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Whether intentional or not, you are experiancing these feelings and it indirectly can be considered an outlet.
No... I have no feelings of "Yes, I killed someone! Tension released!" It's not about tension or anything for me. That's just me, of course.
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