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That is a CSS task.

Should you like to work in website development (I mean for a web design studio) you have to make your website look the same way on both browsers.
I mean once learned it is not that hard, just some debugging for every project...


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I'm not telling you, you can't do it !
I just think you could enjoy Web Coding less than classic Programming...

Wish you the best anyway
Most of my programming has been in robotics. It is very easy to understand. The reason I am looking for another language is to find something to do. I am no longer programming robots. Web coding can make me money though. Thats mainly why I am interested.
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Actually, that's not all correct.

Javascript is a client-side scripting language. It can manipulate both style (via CSS) and content (via (X)HTML). Javascript itself does nothing, it just manipulates other languages, on the client side.

XHTML is for content, CSS for styling, and PHP is a server side language. mySQL for Databases, etc... They all weave together.
What i meant by altering layout is because it doesn't really alter the page you get from the server, it just changes what is displayed. Like showing/hiding tables, loading pre-defined arrays into drop down boxes, etc. But every time you visit that page you get the exact same data.

While with PHP, the data itself gets changed.

Thats what I was trying to get at, I just suck at explaining things sometimes.
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What i meant by altering layout is because it doesn't really alter the page you get from the server, it just changes what is displayed. Like showing/hiding tables, loading pre-defined arrays into drop down boxes, etc. But every time you visit that page you get the exact same data.

While with PHP, the data itself gets changed.

Thats what I was trying to get at, I just suck at explaining things sometimes.
ok. I understand now.
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Most of my programming has been in robotics. It is very easy to understand. The reason I am looking for another language is to find something to do. I am no longer programming robots. Web coding can make me money though. Thats mainly why I am interested.
If you really like programming for robots, learn assembly. Hands down. Just try to learn the basics and see if you like it.

Plus, very few people actually know assembly these days. If you can create a few programs in assembly (maybe a custom bios for your motherboard? ) AND learn C++, you'll end up with a job faster than you know.

If you are interested, I actually have the source code for a really old IBM VGA card bios you can take a look at. PM me if you want it.
Edited by Manyak - 5/18/08 at 3:31pm
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I'm thinking of messing around with Python over the summer...sounds so cool
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What i meant by altering layout is because it doesn't really alter the page you get from the server, it just changes what is displayed. Like showing/hiding tables, loading pre-defined arrays into drop down boxes, etc. But every time you visit that page you get the exact same data.

While with PHP, the data itself gets changed.

Thats what I was trying to get at, I just suck at explaining things sometimes.
With JavaScript you can do the same as PHP you mentioned.
The reason it is not used that way are simple:
- js is very slow
- People can disable it on their Browser
- js is a Script Design language and one of the worsted of them, many Programmers dislike it

Only as it runs client side it can not access a database directly.
But this can also be done with asp, jsp, ...
The decisions is based on the Servers Hardware (and therefore done by the client ;o) ).



And the sentence on same page every time is also wrong.
JS can run Code (and change the page) based on Cookies or your System Variables (like those "only viewable with IE" pages).
Edited by MESeidel - 5/18/08 at 3:44pm
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Continue with C++

more web based?

Do perl on the side.
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With JavaScript you can do the same as PHP you mentioned.
The reason it is not used that way are simple:
- js is very slow
- People can disable it on their Browser
- js is a Script Design language and one of the worsted of them, many Programmers dislike it

Only as it runs client side it can not access a database directly.
But this can also be done with asp, jsp, ...
The decisions is based on the Servers Hardware (and therefore done by the client ;o) ).



And the sentence on same page every time is also wrong.
JS can run Code (and change the page) based on Cookies or your System Variables (like those "only viewable with IE" pages).
If you had a webserver that hosted php, in what situation would you use javascript to access cookies? Because I have yet to find one. Transferring a cookie to the server for the PHP code to handle causes less network traffic than transferring the code to the client, unless its something extremely small like changing the width of a table or whatever according to the user's settings. And if THATS the case, then what I said holds true. Layout != content. Besides, increasing processing power is much more cost-effective than increasing bandwidth.
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This was the last coding for robots that i did.
Take a look and tell me what you think.
Attached as a text file. You probably dont want it copied into the post
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@Manyak: You forgot to mention that JavaScript doesn't actually do that effect, it just allows to dynamically modify the HTML, CSS or both ;3 The way you said it might make him think JavaScript is the only thing needed to do that ;3

lol @ mortimer XD I laughed reading that code and imagining the robot starting to dance XD
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