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post #1 of 11
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Yes the adventure continues, but i believe i am finally getting somewhere. After constantly looking at the benchmark time and time again something caught my eye which i strangely enough ignored. It never seems to run fullscreen and is in windowed mode whenever it launches.

So, i went into single player mode where i seem to get some sort of Quad SLI performance and checked my frames...looks good, then reverted to turning full screen mode off so the game ran in windowed mode. And guess what, my frames dropped by exactly half and had the same horrible stuttery dips that i get in the benchmark!!!

This windowed mode bug is occuring in all known 9 series drivers from what i have seen so far in my experience. All that's needed now is to find a way to get this benchmark to launch in fullscreen mode.

In my opinion this bug in the drivers is caused by Aero, as whenever you run the Bench test it seems to have trouble getting rid of the taskbar and you have to click the Crysis tab to get going. Because if you don't you'll eventually get a non responding Crysis.

Test it for yourselfs and see what i mean.

UPDATE: Aero being disabled makes no difference, it still runs in windowed mode.
 
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post #2 of 11
Funnily enough. I sometimes had this issue in Crysis.

It may not just be the 9 series

*Tip*

I got round this by going into the settings. Setting it at a lower resolution and then putting it back at the monitor resolution. I.E (800x600) then applied it, then from there i went (1440x900) and it would give me full screen again

It would then get rid of the task bar and make my game smoother. Give it a try man
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post #3 of 11
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To solve this i went into the game and changed it to 1280x1024 and selected fullscreen, leaving my desktop display @ 1920x1200. It still requires you to click the taskbar of Crysis to prevent the thing from stop responding on you. All those nasty lag spikes dissapeared and it runs nicely now.

Well, being as i'm still rather heavily CPU bottlenecked at present scores don't look to good. But see the difference below of a before and after:- Taking great notice of MIN and MAX frame rates.

BEFORE:

18/04/2008 11:55:03 - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
================================================== ============
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 87.48s, Average FPS: 22.86
Min FPS: 3.88 at frame 141, Max FPS: 37.72 at frame 325
Average Tri/Sec: -7511774, Tri/Frame: -328565
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.79
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 85.11s, Average FPS: 23.50
Min FPS: 3.88 at frame 141, Max FPS: 37.72 at frame 325
Average Tri/Sec: -7439292, Tri/Frame: -316592
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.90
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 83.83s, Average FPS: 23.86
Min FPS: 3.88 at frame 141, Max FPS: 37.72 at frame 325
Average Tri/Sec: -7477234, Tri/Frame: -313422
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
================================================== ============
Completed All Tests
<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>
18/04/2008 11:55:03 - Vista 64
Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 23.68

AFTER:

19/04/2008 00:55:05 - Vista 64
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX10 1900x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: VeryHigh
================================================== ============
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 73.79s, Average FPS: 27.10
Min FPS: 14.79 at frame 1039, Max FPS: 48.49 at frame 986
Average Tri/Sec: -8940149, Tri/Frame: -329840
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.78
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 66.65s, Average FPS: 30.01
Min FPS: 14.79 at frame 1039, Max FPS: 51.10 at frame 116
Average Tri/Sec: -9498313, Tri/Frame: -316526
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.90
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 66.11s, Average FPS: 30.25
Min FPS: 14.79 at frame 1039, Max FPS: 55.29 at frame 88
Average Tri/Sec: -9615407, Tri/Frame: -317844
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: -2.88
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
================================================== ============
Completed All Tests
<><><><><><><><><><><><><>>--SUMMARY--<<><><><><><><><><><><><><>
19/04/2008 00:55:05 - Vista 64
Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 30.13
 
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Not sure if anyone understood me but, do as follows:-

Launch Crysis set resolution to 1280x1024 and select Full Screen and exit game.

Launch the Crysis Bench Tool and test at your desired resolution and details.

It will start in windowed mode, but once loaded it'll change to full screen.

You'll see a gain. Enjoy!


Basically i have found a bug in the driver and/or Crysis which is hampering performance. Whenever you run Crysis or the Bench Tool you'll notice it runs in windowed mode everytime. And no matter what, you set fullscreen but next time you launch Crysis it's back to windowed mode again. Unfortunately, this occurs everytime you run the Bench also. This actually kills your frame rate.
 
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Split-frame rendering and windowed mode doesn't work very well. Have you tried turning on AFR?
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Originally Posted by Betrivent View Post
Split-frame rendering and windowed mode doesn't work very well. Have you tried turning on AFR?
Did you even read the thread? This has nothing to do with the Nvidia Control Panel.
 
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he's trying to help you get more frames, using a solution you might not have noticed... no need to be so condescending...
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I had this same issue with my card and vista. I would run Crysis benchmark and I noticed I still seen the taskbar, if I did not click crysis tab it would basically stop responding.

I also noticed everytime I ran the game, it was windowed and I had to click full screen everytime.

EDIT: I noticed your workaround, I will have to give this a go. Nice find!
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I wasn't talking about nvidia control panel. I was saying how running anything in windowed mode while using SLI is detrimental to performance
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Originally Posted by Betrivent View Post
I wasn't talking about nvidia control panel. I was saying how running anything in windowed mode while using SLI is detrimental to performance
Indeed, which is why i have found the workaround when it comes to benching.
 
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