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I sure Apple will flip out when people (maybe) start to reveive their operating system on non-mac hardware. In their EULA it says noones allowed. Wonder what'll happen. Apple is evil and expensive (maybe less so now). Everyone should just get linux :(
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post #12 of 65
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My Theory, this company wants apple to sue them, then they can take apple on for having a monopoly over their OS. Its almost like microsoft forcing people to use their software, only apple is forcing people to use their hardware.
Well they're not really forcing anyone.....I mean they don't have any sort of monopoly...............if you were to present the data for the market share of Apple as a percentage of the entire computer hardware/software market it would be obvious.....less than %10 market share (I think it was somewhere around %3 in a CPU article I read recently)

Either way it all depends on how Apple has defended their product with patents and/or copyrights.
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apple has 6% recent article.
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post #14 of 65
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Apple's hardware is no more inflated than Dell's or HP's.
Thats only if you compare the All in One design.

In terms of HARDWARE ONLY for laptops

(Since HP does not offer a 13 inch screen which is the standard screen size for apple, This comparison will be using a standard 15.4 inch screen.)

(Video cards are at stock comparison unless noted. Being that apple does not offer a video card upgrade for their mac, the price comparison will be done with both a stock and full upgraded video card for the HP)

(The hp also features a free memory card upgrade to two gigs VS one gig)

HP dv6700t = 864.99(***913.99 with upgraded video card)
Components

* • Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit)
* • Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo Processor T8100 (2.10 GHz, 3 MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
* • 15.4" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
* • FREE Upgrade to 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)**only thrown in because its free**
* • Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 - For Core 2 Duo Processors

(***50% OFF 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS - For Core 2 Duo Processors)

* • HP Imprint Finish (Radiance) + Microphone+webcam
* • Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 4965AGN Network Connection
* • 120GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
* • SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support

Apple MB402LL/A 1099.99

# 2.1GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
# 1GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512MB
# 120GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
# Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)
# Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
# AirPort Extreme Card & Bluetooth

235 dollar difference spec for spec.186 dollar difference if you upgrade the card. Plus the hP comes with a dvd burner.

Take as you wish but remember this is only a comparison of HARDWARE NOT SOFTWARE.
    
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My Theory, this company wants apple to sue them, then they can take apple on for having a monopoly over their OS. Its almost like microsoft forcing people to use their software, only apple is forcing people to use their hardware.
Umm, Linux anyone?
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Umm, Linux anyone?
I am talking about years ago when they went through all those monopoly trials, before anyone even heard of linux.

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Well they're not really forcing anyone.....I mean they don't have any sort of monopoly................
Oh, so I can use leopard on my sig rig? I don't have to buy an apple computer to do it, legally?
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Umm, Linux anyone?
The sad thing is Linux is not as widely accepted as say Windows or OSX. Certain programs that a school or job needs to run may not be availible for Linux. One program that comes to mind is AutoCad. Granted that its becoming an ever smaller concern as people are now programming for linux, there are still certain aspects that linux lacks to become an OS that will aquire a massive market share that windows has. But each OS has its strong points. Windows has the program library, OSX has the easiness, Linux has the security and customization that open source provides.

One thing may also stop Linux from being main stream is tech support. There isn't a 1800 number that a customer can actually call and get help with linux unless its Novell(or dell). Average consumers aren't aware of IRC or Ubuntu message boards. Linux true power is in the console and when you have an average joe do something in the console, they will get feed up pretty quickly because they like to click.

Again thats only an opinion and it may be skewed in a way. But there is some truth to it.
    
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Well they're not really forcing anyone.....I mean they don't have any sort of monopoly
Correct, the apple is classified as a PC. Apple, Linux, Windows, Solaris, etc all run on PC. By definition PC stands for personal computer which is what the market Apple is in. The only way that would make sense to say apple has a monopoly would be that they are restricting their software to their hardware. But in the marketing sense, they do not have a monopoly.
    
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Apple does have inflated prices on their desktops. Me and a friend were planning on selling apple desktops on ebay because the hardware was surprisingly cheap. We could make a 2k profit easy without touching Apple's price.
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Correct, the apple is classified as a PC. Apple, Linux, Windows, Solaris, etc all run on PC. By definition PC stands for personal computer which is what the market Apple is in. The only way that would make sense to say apple has a monopoly would be that they are restricting their software to their hardware. But in the marketing sense, they do not have a monopoly.
Not really, look at their commercials, apple is apple and everything else is a PC, they consider themselves something completely different.

And yes, they are restricting their OS to their hardware.
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