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So I finally got around to playing Lord of the Ring Online (LotRO) in Vista and was pleasantly surprised with the outcome but let me give you some info first.

XP is installed on my 80GB C: drive (SATAII) and has been since early October so chances are I have more stuff running on it. I also have LotRO installed on it.

Vista is installed on my 40GB D: drive (ATA 100) with far less stuff than XP since it's a relatively new install.

Now on to the quirks.

My load times seem to have sped up while running the game in Vista compared to XP. Ever since book 10 (one of the free updates) it seemed like the game took much longer to load but now it appears to be hard drive or OS related. Also when I choose the auto detect option for graphics XP picks high while Vista picks very high meaning the software seems to think my little 8600GTS can handle more in DX10 than in DX9.

Onto the FPS.

Benchmarking with an MMO probably isn't a good way to determine how things are running because there are a lot of variables that could have happened to skew the numbers such as being in close proximity of a large raiding party, etc. This would in turn mean that more graphics needs to be rendered and as a result putting more of a strain on your video card.

Regardless of this I rode from the west gate of Bree, up the hill to the Prancing Pony and all the way down to the east gate. Bree is one of the most heavily congested areas in the game so I figured it was a good place to test this out.

With all settings the same including VGA overclock here's the results.

XP
Frames
3781

Time (ms)
78849

Min
5

Max
60

Avg
47.952

Vista
Frames
4133

Time (ms)
79172

Min
23

Max
62

Avg
52.203

For the sake of argument I've included a copy of Hijackthis for XP but I have no idea what to look for. I do hardware, not software.

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 1:13:38 PM, on 4/20/2008
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\\WINDOWS\\System32\\smss.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\winlogon.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\services.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\lsass.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\svchost.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\System32\\svchost.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\spoolsv.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\Explorer.EXE
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft IntelliPoint\\point32.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft IntelliType Pro\ype32.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\vsnpstd2.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Kaspersky Lab\\Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0\\avp.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Messenger\\MsnMsgr.Exe
C:\\Program Files\\Kaspersky Lab\\Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0\\avp.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Bonjour\\mDNSResponder.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\System32\\svchost.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Windows Feedback Panel\\wfpuser.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Windows Feedback Panel\\WFPService.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Windows Feedback Panel\\wfpasieve.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Windows Feedback Panel\\wfpcore.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\System32\\svchost.exe
C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\wuauclt.exe
C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator\\Start Menu\\Programs\\Diagnostics, Benchmarking & Overclocking\\HiJackThis\\HiJackThis.exe
C:\\Program Files\\Kaspersky Lab\\Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0\\avp.exe

R1 - HKCU\\Software\\Microsoft\\Windows\\CurrentVersion \\Internet Settings,ProxyOverride = *.local
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Adobe\\Acrobat\\ActiveX\\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Spybot-S&D IE Protection - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\\PROGRA~1\\SPYBOT~1\\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.6.0_03\\bin\\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper - {9030D464-4C02-4ABF-8ECC-5164760863C6} - C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\Windows Live\\WindowsLiveLogin.dll
O4 - HKLM\\..\\Run: [IntelliPoint] "C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft IntelliPoint\\point32.exe"
O4 - HKLM\\..\\Run: [type32] "C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft IntelliType Pro\ype32.exe"
O4 - HKLM\\..\\Run: [SNPSTD2] C:\\WINDOWS\\vsnpstd2.exe
O4 - HKLM\\..\\Run: [AVP] "C:\\Program Files\\Kaspersky Lab\\Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0\\avp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\\..\\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\\..\\Run: [RivaTunerStartupDaemon] "C:\\Program Files\\RivaTuner v2.08\\RivaTuner.exe" /S
O4 - HKLM\\..\\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\\system32\\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKCU\\..\\Run: [MsnMsgr] "C:\\Program Files\\Windows Live\\Messenger\\MsnMsgr.Exe" /background
O4 - Global Startup: WFPUser.lnk = C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Windows Feedback Panel\\wfpuser.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: Add to Anti-Banner - C:\\Program Files\\Kaspersky Lab\\Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0\\ie_banner_deny.htm
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.6.0_03\\bin\\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre1.6.0_03\\bin\\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Web Anti-Virus statistics - {1F460357-8A94-4D71-9CA3-AA4ACF32ED8E} - C:\\Program Files\\Kaspersky Lab\\Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0\\SCIEPlgn.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\\PROGRA~1\\SPYBOT~1\\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Spybot - Search & Destroy Configuration - {DFB852A3-47F8-48C4-A200-58CAB36FD2A2} - C:\\PROGRA~1\\SPYBOT~1\\SDHelper.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\\Program Files\\Messenger\\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\\Program Files\\Messenger\\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {4F1E5B1A-2A80-42CA-8532-2D05CB959537} (MSN Photo Upload Tool) - http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w2/pr02...s/MSNPUpld.cab
O16 - DPF: {6414512B-B978-451D-A0D8-FCFDF33E833C} (WUWebControl Class) - http://update.microsoft.com/windowsu...?1191376072203
O17 - HKLM\\System\\CCS\\Services\\Tcpip\\..\\{2FBC0FCA-EB3B-4605-8E9E-CEB9BEDC15E9}: NameServer = 198.164.4.62 198.164.30.62
O20 - AppInit_DLLs: ,C:\\PROGRA~1\\KASPER~1\\KASPER~1.0\\adialhk.dll
O23 - Service: Adobe LM Service - Unknown owner - C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Adobe Systems Shared\\Service\\Adobelmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0 (AVP) - Kaspersky Lab - C:\\Program Files\\Kaspersky Lab\\Kaspersky Internet Security 7.0\\avp.exe
O23 - Service: ##Id_String1.6844F930_1628_4223_B5CC_5BB94B879762# # (Bonjour Service) - Apple Computer, Inc. - C:\\Program Files\\Bonjour\\mDNSResponder.exe

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End of file - 4887 bytes

Now I have always read that if you run a game in DX10 you'll take a performance hit. Not according to these results.

Any thoughts on why this is?
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are you using SP1?
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DX10 can either be used to make it prettier (but not by much), or boost performance. Check the Assassin's Creed DX10.1 thread in the news section.
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Yes I am using SP1 and I'll have a peek, Coma.

Luckily in the case of LotRO it makes things both prettier -and- more efficient.

My 8600GTS have some life left in it yet.
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This is the kind of stuff that I like to see (but my wallet doesn't). Looks like I may be switching to Vista sometime soon if this keeps up. Please, Age of Conan/Funcom, do DX10 well.
    
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I was really amazed. My maximum FPS didn't really go up but my minimum did. I guess it's all in how it's designed. Even with the increased memory usage (I hit 92% utilized last night) it's working out better than DX9.

The one thing that has me concerned is why are my load times less? We're not talking half a second. It's 5 seconds or so.
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i also gained about 300 points in 3dmark 06 (posted it a while back)
vista does NOT seem to hinder gaming in the slightest !!!!!
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is LotRO Dx10? if so im reinstalling it, was a good game.
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Yep.

They begun DX10 support with book 10 I think but be warned, you're in for about a 6 hour wait as you download all of the updates. The game launched with up to book 8 and we are now up to book 12 with book 13 due out next week I believe.
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post #10 of 10
great, thanks alot.

might have to play it again, just waiting for my replacement DVD drive tomorrow so i can install all my games again!
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