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HD-DVD is capable of 1080p as well.
hmm didn't know that, I thought blue-ray was the only one that could do 1080p and that's why it was inevitable that it won. I wonder why HD-DVD lost then?
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hmm didn't know that, I thought blue-ray was the only one that could do 1080p and that's why it was inevitable that it won. I wonder why HD-DVD lost then?
Because the Blu-Ray Consortium gave more money to movie studios than HD-DVD.
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Because the Blu-Ray Consortium gave more money to movie studios than HD-DVD.
i see, then the sith have returned...lol
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[QUOTE=cognoscenti;3744264]I still think the average person on the street hasnt heard of it.....

Try it, ask 10 random people who are not actively interested in technology
'what is bluray?' and they will say 'huh?'


Bluray is like the 9800 series cards,why bother? little added value over current options and probably will be replaced soon anyway.[/QUOTE]

While I do think the 'average' person has heard of it, there are many that haven't. I work with people's home video equipment and I notice a very small slice of them has actually adopted it, a relatively large group has heard of it but wants nothing to do with it, and the last small group has no idea what I'm talking about.

Blu-Ray shouldn't be compared to something like the 9800 series. BD actually DOES have something to offer given you have the right monitor/TV and sound equipment. I have a Samsung HLR series 720p DLP and it looks pretty dang good on that but my friend's brand-new Samsung 1080p LCD makes mine look like Super-Nintendo. There is a blatantly obvious hike in quality. Also, I actually do have a nice receiver and I notice a huge difference in SQ.

NOTHING is going to be like the leap from VHS (those cassette thingies remember) to DVD just like nothing will beat the transition from cassettes to CD and 2D gaming to 3D.

If you don't have AT LEAST a 720p TV then BD is absolutely pointless. As HDTVs become more and more commonplace in the home and the prices come down a bit, I think it will be adopted by the masses.
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I bet teh people at sony are dancing about screaming "SHOW ME THE MONEY"
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I still think the average person on the street hasnt heard of it.....

Try it, ask 10 random people who are not actively interested in technology
'what is bluray?' and they will say 'huh?'


Bluray is like the 9800 series cards,why bother? little added value over current options and probably will be replaced soon anyway.[/QUOTE]

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Blu-Ray shouldn't be compared to something like the 9800 series. BD actually DOES have something to offer given you have the right monitor/TV and sound equipment. I have a Samsung HLR series 720p DLP and it looks pretty dang good on that but my friend's brand-new Samsung 1080p LCD makes mine look like Super-Nintendo. There is a blatantly obvious hike in quality. Also, I actually do have a nice receiver and I notice a huge difference in SQ.

NOTHING is going to be like the leap from VHS (those cassette thingies remember) to DVD just like nothing will beat the transition from cassettes to CD and 2D gaming to 3D.

If you don't have AT LEAST a 720p TV then BD is absolutely pointless. As HDTVs become more and more commonplace in the home and the prices come down a bit, I think it will be adopted by the masses.

How you you personally compare the visual quality of an upconverted DVD to a Blu-Ray?
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Because the Blu-Ray Consortium gave more money to movie studios than HD-DVD.


We'll never know the totals on both sides. If the BDA gave out more money than the DVD Forum, then the difference is definitely not as large as a royalties the DVD Forum collected in the past decade of DVD exclusivity in the market. You win some, you lose some.

Bit of a bitter statement there. A lot more than money exchanging hands went into HD DVD's demise. It's not like Sony and Toshiba were alone with a couple billion dollars each and started recruiting members. From the start, HD DVD was losing in both hardware and content support and only winning in price, which did not make enough of a difference in the end. A lot of companies, both hardware and content-oriented, started with support for Blu-Ray because they knew it was where the money was going to be. They didn't require an incentive. To seal the deal, the BDA handed out some money.

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HD DVD had a better codec system then blu-ray I believe at the time. But blu-ray offered space.
Both specs require the EXACT SAME codec support when it comes to players. It is up to the MOVIE STUDIO to decide which one to use. In any case, the difference in quality between, say, an HD DVD encoded in VC1 and a Blu-Ray Disc encoded in MPEG2 is totally irrelavent because it's hardly there at all.
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We'll never know the totals on both sides. If the BDA gave out more money than the DVD Forum, then the difference is definitely not as large as a royalties the DVD Forum collected in the past decade of DVD exclusivity in the market. You win some, you lose some.

Bit of a bitter statement there. A lot more than money exchanging hands went into HD DVD's demise. It's not like Sony and Toshiba were alone with a couple billion dollars each and started recruiting members. From the start, HD DVD was losing in both hardware and content support and only winning in price, which did not make enough of a difference in the end. A lot of companies, both hardware and content-oriented, started with support for Blu-Ray because they knew it was where the money was going to be. They didn't require an incentive. To seal the deal, the BDA handed out some money.



Both specs require the EXACT SAME codec support when it comes to players. It is up to the MOVIE STUDIO to decide which one to use. In any case, the difference in quality between, say, an HD DVD encoded in VC1 and a Blu-Ray Disc encoded in MPEG2 is totally irrelavent because it's hardly there at all.
I personally think money was the end of HD-DVD because it was just fine until all of the sudden like 3 movie companies moved to Blu-Ray. I'm sure if I throw enough money at someone I can get them to do just about anything.
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We'll never know the totals on both sides. If the BDA gave out more money than the DVD Forum, then the difference is definitely not as large as a royalties the DVD Forum collected in the past decade of DVD exclusivity in the market. You win some, you lose some.

Bit of a bitter statement there. A lot more than money exchanging hands went into HD DVD's demise. It's not like Sony and Toshiba were alone with a couple billion dollars each and started recruiting members. From the start, HD DVD was losing in both hardware and content support and only winning in price, which did not make enough of a difference in the end. A lot of companies, both hardware and content-oriented, started with support for Blu-Ray because they knew it was where the money was going to be. They didn't require an incentive. To seal the deal, the BDA handed out some money.



Both specs require the EXACT SAME codec support when it comes to players. It is up to the MOVIE STUDIO to decide which one to use. In any case, the difference in quality between, say, an HD DVD encoded in VC1 and a Blu-Ray Disc encoded in MPEG2 is totally irrelavent because it's hardly there at all.
Why do you need further proof on something that has already been reported? Even if you refuse to believe what has been reported, it is simple logic, so don't ask for proof when it has not only already been presented, but is quite simply obvious.
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Bluray is like the 9800 series cards,why bother? little added value over current options and probably will be replaced soon anyway.
I think we both know that this isn't true.
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