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post #11 of 21
My previous X1950Pro AGP had issues with overheating. Removed HSF and noticed that the HS wasn't touching the GPU! Ended up modding the HSF mounts to rectify temps. Once done, all was well and good, then I put a VF900 on it then traded it to Grunion
post #12 of 21
As you can see I go a loong time between upgrades and it's time, and I've been doing my homework;
You don't want that one, about the only single slot worth getting is the Toxic with Vapor-X

I've been researching for evah,
If you can find the Atomic (GoodLuck with that) get one!
The Toxic is the next best single slot (some people have closely spaced slots and would be asphyxiating one card if they CF'd 2 dual-slot cards)
It's highly clocked (Still has some overhead for a little more oomph) and is based on probably one of the best GPU IC's (Samsung)
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post #13 of 21
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Thanks for referencing MSI, I found this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127315

Free witcher is good, nice rebate. Quite a few references to the dual slot being better than single slots.

Looked up the vapor-x technology, etc., in the last hour and while it looks cool I think the board I plan on getting (p5e or maximus) will have plenty of room for a dual slot.
    
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I have a "thing" against Sapphire. I think they are too cheap, quality wise. And, from what I've heard, they have a knack to redesign the PCB to be different than ATI's, which I've found to be problematic.

I won't ever buy an ATI card again. The ATI series died, imo, at the 9 series. (Those 9500pros and 9800's were awesome.)
post #15 of 21
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Thanks for referencing MSI, I found this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127315

Free witcher is good, nice rebate. Quite a few references to the dual slot being better than single slots.

Looked up the vapor-x technology, etc., in the last hour and while it looks cool I think the board I plan on getting (p5e or maximus) will have plenty of room for a dual slot.
I have that card and its AWSOME. My DFI board hosed it tho. So now its at MSI being fixed or replaced. It is a very good card tho.
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Lower quality parts/PCBs and slower clocks and generally lower performance versus other manufacturer's
    
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I owned a Sapphire X1600 Pro for my AGP system a while back and I pushed that thing hard. Terrible air circulation, an overclock that could barely get through 5 minutes of artifact scanning with ATI Tool but showed no problems in games...

There are two reasons why Sapphire makes cheaper cards.

1. They are using the new single slot cooler that in turn reduces the price.
2. Most of their cards are sold as Lite retail versions meaning you pretty much just get the driver CD, a cable or two and that's it. No bells or whistles.

Their price is lower but their quality is excellent from the card I owned.
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post #18 of 21
The only sapphire card I've ever seen IRL (An X1950 PRO) seemed to be of poor build quality

That's all I can say from my experience (Which isn't much)
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post #19 of 21
Get the diamond 3870. Its $160 after mir and has a good cooler on it.
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post #20 of 21
just a comment on the single slot cooler. it would be fine except it may go against your airflow. in mine, i don't have that problem, because i only have one exhaust fan in my case. i just left the bracket off the empty slot(s) below the card hoping it might draw some fresh air in from the back. anyway, if you have a 120mm intake in the front or something like that it will be blowing against the airflow of the card. just to clarify that, the single slot cooler sucks air in the bottom and blows the hot air toward the front of the case.
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