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Hey guys,

First time poster, long time reader, thanks so much for being the hub of my overclocking knowledge. It has been a long and painful learning process But at this stage I'm starting to know my stuff, and have this system close to where I want it to be, but as alot of you would know, close is never close enough!

I know that synthetic benchmarking is something to ignore really, but this keeps bugging the proverbial out of me. I'm just not getting any decent 3DMark06 scores on this PC I've built, and it's hardly a bomb:

C2D E8400 @ 4.20 (9 x 467) under Xigmatek S1283, rock stable
2 x 2GB Dominator Sticks @ 5-5-5-15 & 1:1 (467MHz)
ASUS P5K Standard Motherboard
Gigabyte 8800 GTS 512 @ 750/1050
Coolermaster 550W PSU
Vista Home 64

XP SP2 = 14970 Marks
Vista 64 = 12300 Marks
SuperPi = 11.094 (Stable, 10.434 @ 4.5)

Temps are fine on everything. Trust me

What in blazes is stopping me from getting 17-18000+ in Vista 64 like quite a few of the results are showing on the Futuremark website? A system identical to mine is getting 6500 marks more... Eh? And why such an epic drop in scores from XPSP2 32-bit to x64 Vista? Is 2670 lost marks a normal measurement?

I thought that it could be that my PSU is lacking... I have heard that a budget PSU yields budget 3D application results both in real-world and synthetics. That's one thought. Also, I'm running a PCI-E 2.0 card in a PCI-E 1.0 slot. But surely (from what I've read) this can't make THAT much of a difference? Correct me if I'm wrong

And before someone says spend 420 bucks and buy a Q9450, forget it. The game doesnt mean that much to me. I'm a BFYB kinda guy and this is just something I do when I have five minutes.

Thanks in advance, any ideas would help

-- Nick
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Did you mean youre running the GPU in a PCIE-1 slot?

Whichever PCIE-2 card (x16) it is you have in the PCIE-1 slot (x8), it will just run at that PCIE-1 speed. No matter its rating. It will be fine ... But 8800GTS would be underpowered in PCIE-1, if thats what you meant.
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Forgive me for sounding insolent Good Sir, I think we may have our wires crossed.

PCIe 2.0 is the next revision that goes with the x38 and x48 chipsets that Intel has thrown out on new boards like the X48-Dxx series from GA and P5Exx series from ASUS.

On my P35 P5K, the slot that I currently have the GTS in IS an x16 PCIe 1.0 slot. However, the loverly 8800GTS 512 has native 2.0 support; from a bandwidth standpoint this new interface should double the slot's transfer rate. 2.5 - 5G/sec or something? I read it somewhere. Anyway...

My question is, would upgrading to an x38/48 board with PCIe 2.0 bring my 3DM06 score up? Sounds dumb, but I'm open to any suggestions/advice/pointing-and-laughing directed my way.
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Ive just swapped my p35 for a X38. The only difference is the X38 has two PCIE (X16) slots whereas the P35 had one.

You should be still in native PCIE (X16) on at least one slot.
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The XP score you got seems normal. Why the score is much lower in Vista must be something driver related.
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I agree with Andy, the XP looks right, the vista a bit on the low side. Don't have vista myself so I can't help you there. Seems likely a driver problem. How are you overclocking your gpu in Vista? If it's via Rivatuner, you might open up the graphing utility and make sure the overclock is actually being properly applied. Also double check your driver settings before running 3dmark, make sure everything is properly set to maximize performance. If I had vista, personally, and having the same problem, personally I'd at least *try* placing the desktop into 'retro' i.e. XP mode and just see if it helps at all.

Remember when you look at scores on ORB, there are some people who do some EXTREME stuff to their cards to get the scores they get. They throw on major overvoltages/overclocks, then cool their cards with liquid nitrogen or dry ice, that kinda thing. Also, I doubt you'd make such a simple mistake, but are you making sure the scores you're looking at aren't aren't for SLI rigs?

And I seriously doubt it's your power supply. In some *very rare* instances, an underpowered psu might potentially cause crashing problems, or prevent you from overclocking your video card as far as it otherwise might, but other than that, the psu doesn't actually *affect* your 3d performance per se. Either the card has enough juice to run at the speeds it's set to, or your system's gonna be crashing.
    
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