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post #31 of 60
What's the chip going to do, automatically drop it's multiplier when fed a higher reference clock?

Anyway, there is no doubt that Intel can do just fine without the enthusiast market.
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Most of Intel's business comes from light users, like business users and basic home users using prefab computers ("soccer mom" rigs). The ability to overclock on a prefab rig that is using the most basic Foxconn or ECS Elitegroup motherboard is non-existent or extremely limited.

OCing requires a stronger PSU, which is pricey. It also requires a good tower with excellent airflow, which is pricey. Also requires a third-party heat sink, which is pricey. A budget prefab needs to have budget parts, and that takes up the majority of rigs being used in offices and homes. You should see some of the rigs in these big corporate offices. They are barely strong enough to run XP SP2 much less OCing. The bottom line is paramount to these large bank, law office, or any other large company, so expensive rigs are out of the picture.

Cutting out the ability to OC on certain sockets makes perfect sense. This will allow for cheaper CPUs, cheaper mobos, and the use of cheaper RAM. More pooters will be bought of this nature than of the extreme gaming or enthusiast niche. Of course, the enthusiast niche will always be there, so specific OC sockets will be available. If you want a basic build for general use, go for the budget prefab. If you want a gaming or enthusiast build, go for the OC socket. Pretty simple.
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post #33 of 60
Intel's not gonna do it. They know damn well that if they did that, they'd automatically lose 80% of their enthusiast fanbase to AMD, simply because AMDS would overclock...period. They know this, so they'll allow OC on their mainstream hardware...
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post #34 of 60
Hmmm, looks like ill be sticking with AMD if this is the case.
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post #35 of 60
Stupid idea.
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post #36 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
What's the chip going to do, automatically drop it's multiplier when fed a higher reference clock?

Anyway, there is no doubt that Intel can do just fine without the enthusiast market.
The system clock will be integrated along with just about the rest of the FSB on the die, like AMDs. They can easily lock, well, everything.
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post #37 of 60
This would affect a whole bunch of other sectors as well, like all the companies that make enthusiast cooling products and stuff; I think they might back out of this one.
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post #38 of 60
If Intel does this, this is by far the most stupid thing they could do. It's just wrong business-wise and to their loyal customers.
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post #39 of 60
Quote:
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The system clock will be integrated along with just about the rest of the FSB on the die, like AMDs. They can easily lock, well, everything.
I'm not talking about the FSB, im talking about the clock generator - the little quartz crystal occilator that says ~27.000MHz (or a similar fixed number) and the associated IC that is on nearly every motherboard.

Unless intel does something really drastic, upping the reference clock will still OC the system.
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post #40 of 60
I think they will neither win or lose this way with mainstream users. Intel could care less about us OC'ers. Good thing that I use the nvidia chipset, I am sure that they will have boards available to OC with.
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