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A lot of things haven't went AMD's way since around the summer of 2006 and unfortunately the situation will persist with the company's move to 45nm production. AMD's bold plan was to start volume production of 45nm chips around mid-2008 and have the processors, at least the server-oriented Opterons, selling in Q3. The updated time line for 45nm delivery now sees AMD promising volume shipment of CPUs manufactuered using the mentioned node from Q4.

The delay basically means that the Shanghai Opterons and Deneb and Propus Phenoms will reach OEMs and stores around one year after Intel has introduced its own 45nm processors and just around the time the server and high-end desktop Nehalems come into play.
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Ugh, when should I buy a Phenom?? I had my heart set on getting the 9550 but now it seems like I should wait until the 45nm.

Sigh. I'll just buy everything else (graphics card, RAM) then decide on the CPU at that time I guess. My AM2+ board is getting dusty...
    
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What socket will the Shanghai's be? Wikipedia and Google returned no immediate results.
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that sucks...

these delays are really punishing AMD, and if the 45nm phenoms come through in Q4 2008, then they won't have any chance to shine...
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What socket will the Shanghai's be? Wikipedia and Google returned no immediate results.
My understanding is that like AM2+, Socket AM3 will be fully backwards compatible with AM2, AM2+, but with better electronics to take advantage of the Shanghai chips.
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My understanding is that like AM2+, Socket AM3 will be fully backwards compatible with AM2, AM2+, but with better electronics to take advantage of the Shanghai chips.
you are almost correct. AM2+ boards will support AM3 cpu's but not AM2 boards. Also AM3 boards will not be backwards compatible with AM2 or AM2+.
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What socket will the Shanghai's be? Wikipedia and Google returned no immediate results.
Shanghai is the codename for the 45nm Opteron so it will be on the existing 1207 pin socket. The desktop version, Deneb, will be compatible with the existing AM2 and AM2+ boards and it should be compatible with future AM3 boards as well. The roadmap from this Dailytech article shows:


    
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that sucks...

these delays are really punishing AMD, and if the 45nm phenoms come through in Q4 2008, then they won't have any chance to shine...
I always thought they were slated for Q4 anyways.. And why wont they have a chance to shine?
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I always thought they were slated for Q4 anyways.. And why wont they have a chance to shine?
Nehalem?
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What socket will the Shanghai's be? Wikipedia and Google returned no immediate results.
Its K10 so it should be AM2/AM2+/1207/1207+.
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