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My current specs are in my profile. Thinking of upgrading my cpu, how many points should I expect to gain in 3dmark06? Can I use this cpu in my current mobo? I think I saw the bios update somewhere.
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My current specs are in my profile. Thinking of upgrading my cpu, how many points should I expect to gain in 3dmark06? Can I use this cpu in my current mobo? I think I saw the bios update somewhere.
Well, if you had a 9850 running at about 3.0Ghz+ your gonna be looking at about 4000 CPU points in 3DMARK06.

Besides 3DMARK, you have to really analyse whether the quad option will benefit you, especially with a 3.5Ghz Dual. Unreal Tournament 3, Crysis, and few other games DO support multithreading for quads, but dual cores perform just as well to some extent.

Examine your options carefully.

Although, in all honesty, The 9850BE is an excellent peice of technology, and a very powerful chip, especially when you OC it
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All im interested in is having a CPU that will last me some time and will have high 3dmark points. Will my mobo support it? http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/...s.php?S_ID=304
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All im interested in is having a CPU that will last me some time and will have high 3dmark points. Will my mobo support it? http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/...s.php?S_ID=304
Caramanos, I don't think you'd see a huge jump from a 6400+ 3.5Ghz to a 9850. Don't get my wrong the 9850 BE's so far are great processors but the performance increase wouldn't be hugely noticeable. Your already running at 3.5Ghz...that's pretty quick for an AMD processor

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You wont see that big of a jump in un optomized games. However you will notice basic OS performance increases.. Ive noted that. Just make sure your motherboard supports the new Quad core.
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Hello,

I have basically the same question. I have what you see in the sig - the mobo is an AM2+ with some copper plumbing on the mosfet and chipset so it's almost a shame not to use it to its full potential.

Would I be able to crank the juice a bit on a Phenom with this board and my TRUE compared to the current Athlon X2?
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Hello,

I have basically the same question. I have what you see in the sig - the mobo is an AM2+ with some copper plumbing on the mosfet and chipset so it's almost a shame not to use it to its full potential.

Would I be able to crank the juice a bit on a Phenom with this board and my TRUE compared to the current Athlon X2?
Bowman, there would hardly be any performance difference between the two processors. Granted it's a "quad core" and you could "multitask" more but your not going to notice a huge improvement. Have you tried overclocking your 6000+? Stock speed is 3Ghz and in my opinion that is pretty quick...

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Bowman, there would hardly be any performance difference between the two processors. Granted it's a "quad core" and you could "multitask" more but your not going to notice a huge improvement. Have you tried overclocking your 6000+? Stock speed is 3Ghz and in my opinion that is pretty quick...

Good luck
I have tried overclocking but I didn't get any further than 225MHz system clock before Orthos started blinking red and giving me heart attacks with my case speaker. Coupled with the BIOS for some reason only giving me the 14.5 multiplier option and refusing to recognize 15 the gain was negligible. I tried setting the multiplier all the way down and testing the system clock before starting on the actual CPU and 290MHz system clock was stable, while 300 was unstable.

However, that was one day after building and I don't know if the thermal paste curing would make any differences.. My temps are completely off the wazoo (OCCT reports 11C on one core and 20 on the other, coretemp reports 18C on one and 20-25 on the other), BIOS is about ten degrees above coretemp so I'm assuming that.. Which means my load temperatures are around 40. There should be some headroom with that shouldn't it? Besides it's not crashing or anything, Orthos just gives me the error.

In any case I'll avoid the Phenom because tests seem to indicate it's even slower than this one for gaming. I'll save the cash for Nehalem. (or whatever AMD brings out if they indeed have lost their heads and lock it)
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I have tried overclocking but I didn't get any further than 225MHz system clock before Orthos started blinking red and giving me heart attacks with my case speaker. Coupled with the BIOS for some reason only giving me the 14.5 multiplier option and refusing to recognize 15 the gain was negligible. I tried setting the multiplier all the way down and testing the system clock before starting on the actual CPU and 290MHz system clock was stable, while 300 was unstable.

However, that was one day after building and I don't know if the thermal paste curing would make any differences.. My temps are completely off the wazoo (OCCT reports 11C on one core and 20 on the other, coretemp reports 18C on one and 20-25 on the other), BIOS is about ten degrees above coretemp so I'm assuming that.. Which means my load temperatures are around 40. There should be some headroom with that shouldn't it? Besides it's not crashing or anything, Orthos just gives me the error.
Bowman, have you tried dropping the multiplier and raising the HTT? What kind of results were you getting? What was the maximum frequency of your memory? (component limit)

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I currently have 2 system the quad FX -74 OC @ 3.21 and the just build phenom 9850 BE @ 2.9(for now)

If we talk about 3d mark 06 (with the same configuration ,except mobo)

Using the above speed

The FX-74 will score 4250-4389 in CPU score and the benchmark score is around 14500(Vista)

The phenom CPU score right now is around 3900-4000, but the 3d mark score is 1000+ more than the FX 74. I will assume because the CPU memory is higher.
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