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I want to see benches.
+1.

Also, let's see what NV can bring out.
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people people people...

it's about the performance of the memory subsystem.

f(M) = bus width * memory speed.

when you double the memory speed you don't NEED an increased bus width.
seriously.
you look at R600 it cost a ton to make because ti was 512bit. there was so much tracing on those PCBs it was ridiculous.

lower bus interface isn't about the cost of the GPU it's about the cost of the entire card. It's cheaper to use faster RAM on a narrower bus. In one way or another this is passed down to us the consumer.
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post #73 of 138
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Originally Posted by OcCam View Post
I thought that 1 gig of ram was useless on a 256-bit bus, Ala: 8800gt 1gb???

anyway looks great, hopefully Its crossfireable with the hd 3800's. (I know, it won't be Officially)
no the interface didn't make it worthless.
the work load did.

there is almost NOTHING which uses that much RAM.

it's like taking a PI system, loading it with half a gig of RAM and wondering why it doesn't run mine sweep any faster than it did when it had 40mb RAM.

the work load determines the need for RAM and the ability to use it. NOT the itnerface.
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Everything is so closely related to the 3870 and 3850, makes me wonder if this will be AMD's "G92".

As with anything AMD has made since the R600, I'll believe it when I see it.

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Intel hasn't made an sli chipset because nvidia refuses to give them the rights to do it.
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Skulltrail.
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NVIDIA allowing SLI to work on Intel chip sets would simplfy things greatly, which is exactly why they won't allow it.
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The HD4870 won't be 350 for long, maybe a week. Crysis is the most terribly coded game on earth.
Nope, Stalker was!
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people people people...

it's about the performance of the memory subsystem.

f(M) = bus width * memory speed.

when you double the memory speed you don't NEED an increased bus width.
seriously.
you look at R600 it cost a ton to make because ti was 512bit. there was so much tracing on those PCBs it was ridiculous.

lower bus interface isn't about the cost of the GPU it's about the cost of the entire card. It's cheaper to use faster RAM on a narrower bus. In one way or another this is passed down to us the consumer.
True that my friend, +rep for you.
GDDR5 (if the expectations pull through) will make it so that a larger bus width isn't necessarily required for better performance. I'm sure either nVidia or ATI will release cards with 512 bit buses in the near future, but the prices will most likely be ridiculous, which is why I say go for improved memory speeds and get the most out of the 256 bit for a cheaper price.
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I still dont see how these cards will be any good considering 8800GTS is mouch better then 3870 and making 4870 a bit better n 8800GTS is not going to give Nvidia a run.
8800GTS is not "much" better than HD3870.
And HD4870 is much better than HD3870:
- 480 (96-5D) over 320 (64-5D) Shader Units
- 1050 over 775 MHz Shader clock speed
- 850 over 775 MHz Core clock speed
- 123 over 72 MB/s Memory Bandwidth
...

Very well improvement.
Plus it is kinda sure there will be a HD4870x2 dual Card.

While all rumors about nVidia's next Generation sound like it wont overkill either, nor see it released to soon...



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so we're going back to the 2900's naming scheme... XT... PRO...
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The texture fillrate still seems rather unimpressive

Lets hope it turns out well.
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The texture fillrate still seems rather unimpressive

Lets hope it turns out well.
It's not that important

HD4870::::: 27200
HD3870::::: 12400

8800Ultra::: 19584
8800GT::::: 33600
9600GT::::: 20800
9800GTX:::: 43200

check the game benches, an 8800Ultra still kicks a lot while it got the bad TFR against the new g9x nVidia Cards...
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