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post #21 of 40
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Originally Posted by forcifer View Post
how about nvidia concentrates more on drivers and not on bsing the g92? at least ATI is creative enough to make a new core every 6months-a year. the G90 has been out for god knows how long, and the G92 isnt much different. they even kept the same naming scheme, and went as far as to have 3 8800GTSs, with one based on G92 and 2 on G90. lets start thinking, start utilizing what you have, and then make some badass card that isnt choked by drivers.
I'm sure it's just a typo but it's G80 not G90 (no such thing). I know what your saying though. Nvidia's product lineup is more confusing then ever. ATI has three highend/midrange cards (3870 X2, 3870, and 3850) and Nvidia has six (9800GX2, 9800GTX, 8800GTS G92, 8800GT, 9600GT, 8800GS). If I add in all the old cards, Nvidia's lineup is even more confusing (9800GX2, 8800Ultra, 8800GTX, 9800GTX, 8800GTS G92, 8800GT, 9600GT, 8800GTS G80, 8800GS). I also much prefer ATI's naming scheme as it's much much much more strait forward. It's much easier for the average user to figure out if a 3870 is faster than a 3850 than it is with a 8800GT and 8800GS.
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That would look very bad for ATI to have their new 480 SP 4870 be comparable in performance with G92. Here's one for hoping RV770 is back at the top of performance so that there's competition with GT200. When is ATI moving over to 45nm for GPUs? They traditionally are at least a half-node ahead of Nvidia.
    
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GT200 isnt going to be out the way they hoped, thats all. It has been moved from the summer to the fall. Either that or they are just going to wait for rv770 to come out and release gt200 depending on its performance, and in the meantime, they have to release something to pay the bills.


While were on process size, everyone knows about 750,780,790 having problems that usually are attributed to the NB, I want to know why the process for the NB's is still 90nm!!!!
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Man I have never seen so many people so angry over a die shrink... But if they aren't making money off of their current high end cores because of yield, why would they try to make one even more complex until they get the simple one worked out.

You guys are forgetting 95% of their profit is off of the lower end and integrated stuff that gets thrown into dells and other big box stuff. High end cards are like Dodge Vipers, they lure people into the car lot, but more likely than not, they will end up leaving with a Neon.
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You guys are forgetting 95% of their profit is off of the lower end and integrated stuff that gets thrown into dells and other big box stuff. High end cards are like Dodge Vipers, they lure people into the car lot, but more likely than not, they will end up leaving with a Neon.
if people followed that then AMD bashing would come to a near stop just because it doesnt overclock well, even though its dirt cheap
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i am sick to death of nvidia's rehash of the g92 cards... honestly...
Why are you sick of it ? You don't like your card ? Or you find yourself needing more power than a g92 can produce ? Maybe go SLI and you wont be so unhappy with nvidia ?
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I don't get it, why isn't Nvidia releasing a new generation?

They've had a long time to get yields up, even at 55nm, so there shouldn't really be a cost difference between G200 and G92...

Looks like the RV770 will be a fair bit faster than the 3870, I really hope Nvidia doesn't pull more G92 stuff out to compete. It's pretty sad that the 8800GTX, a 1.5 year old card, is still the fastest on the market by a fair margin (single GPU wise).
Forgetting the 8800 Ultra? You can still buy the Ultra, and it does perform better then a 8800 GTX.
post #28 of 40
Unless it's going to be G94-based, than the 55nm G92 won't even come close to the RV770, unless they clock the crap out of it. Even then, it's a far fetch.

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Forgetting the 8800 Ultra? You can still buy the Ultra, and it does perform better then a 8800 GTX.
The Ultra is still G80-based, so he really isn't that far off. Either way, its a 1.5 year old GPU design.
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post #29 of 40
I'm very sure that Nvidia GT200 is going to be much faster than ATI HD4xxx, and only time will prove that I'm right.
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Honestly the G92s have only been out for about what....a half a year? As long as they plan on improving on it I don't see what the problem is. Do you guys not expect the 9900 series to run any game you throw at it just fine?

The only problem I have with NVidia is that they even claim any of these new cards to be a "new generation". NVidia is still stuck in 8-series in my opinion.
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