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post #1 of 17
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Ok so i've become a little tired of my X2 4000+ as good as it is at overclocking it just doesnt provide the performance I want, I don't really want to spend much more than £100, So I was looking at the X2 6400+, Windsor Core, 3.2GHz, 1MB Cache, or would I be better off paying the bit extra for a Phenom? I use my rig mainly for gaming btw.
post #2 of 17
in gaming the gpu is more important than the cpu (but you're probably bottlenecking the gpu)
post #3 of 17
Not in Counter-Strike. It depends on the game.
post #4 of 17
Most games are GPU limited due to the intense graphics. Counter-Strike Source is one of the few exceptions as it's graphics are old, it's claim to fame was the physics which needs a good CPU.

GeforceGTS, I personally wouldn't stay with AMD if you want more power than an overclocked X2 4000+ can offer. The X2 4000+ hits around 3.0GHz overclocked, and the most you'll get from any other X2 is about 3.4-3.5GHz, a noticeable increase but nothing that is going to wow you. A Phenom would be a noticeable improvement but I dunno if it's really a big enough difference to justify the cost. The increased L2 cache won't make much difference in games either.

Switching to Intel would cost about the same and be a more noticeable difference. You can pick up the Q6600 for $200 at Microcenter and it overclocks to 3.6GHz. Intel is faster clock-for-clock than AMD, so a 3.6GHz Intel is like a 4.5GHz AMD (if they existed). I base that math on the fact that my E2180 at 2.0GHz scores the same as my X2 4200+ did overclocked at 2.6GHz. Most games don't utilize all of the cores on a quadcore, so you might want to consider an E8400 (dual core) which also costs $200 and should overclock to around 4.0GHz. The E8400 would be better for now, but the quadcore gives you more future proofing as newer games are likely to start utilizing quadcore power. You'll obviously need a new motherboard if you go Intel, but a quality Gigabyte DS3L only costs $90 and overclocks well.

You might also consider waiting for Nehalem (Intel's new CPU's) that I think are due out in Q4? I dunno, someone will quickly correct me if I'm wrong on that. But they should be a significant leap from current offerings and utilize DDR3, which should become cheap in about 9-12 months.
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Well your motherboard does not support Phenom CPU's so if you are really looking to spend a little cash and buy a new mb and cpu then go for it. If you really just want to stick with the cpu, then I would go with the 6400 like you said. it is at stock 3.2Ghz but a small cache. Overall I think you should just upgrade your system completely lol. Quad is the way to go in my opinion.
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Yeah I would either upgrade your motherboard to take your X2 a little further, or get a Phenom (if you have the cash, not worth it IMO for just gaming, also don't know if your board supports it), or switch to an intel system. Is your board SLI? If yes, then another GTS would be the best option. If not, then I wouldn't bother with any other upgrades besides to an E8400 and a good board.
     
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post #7 of 17
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Thanks for the replys, I think i'll go with the 6400, since I was slow to switch to AM2 from 939 so my motherboard aint that old, it cost me about £90 I think ;l i'll just stick with the cheap option for now untill I can afford a full upgrade, just want rid of the occasional lag I get when playing demanding games really, btw my board is SLI I don't have SLI money though ;D Plus my 8800 has a double slot cooler not sure I could fit another in there.
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or a oced 5000+ BE?
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small upgrade but cheap + legendary overclocking is the the 4200 Brisbane chip..G2 stepping. If you can your hands on one like me 3 ghz on stock voltage is easy. I'm @ 2.7 right now because I'm waiting for my new case to arrive, I have a very small one right now. This chip has gone by unnoticed I was luicky to find it. 3.4 ghz is possible with a decent cooler believe it or not.
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post #10 of 17
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^^ Yeah I can get my 4000+ up to 2.8ghz with stock voltage and stock cooling, i'd rather just spend the cash on a 6400+ 3.2ghz so I don't have to bother with the overclocking and extra cooling... although I just googled that 5000+ BE and that's pretty temping.. Cheap would put me through untill I can afford a full upgrade..
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