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I was looking at the gigabyte p31-ds3l and p35-ds3l... What's the major difference between the two? All I have noticed is that one supports 1066 memory, the other 800... They have different south bridges too, but I don't even know what that means. Is there a performance gap between these two boards? Why?

I was originally thinking of getting the p35, but if I can save 10 bucks or so on practically the same thing, I will.
    
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I can't tell you a lot about the p31 boards but I can tell you that gigabyte p35 boards OC very well. I've never owned a p31. Read this review it goes over the difference between the two chipsets and their performance. Here's a quote from the review.
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Intel P31 Express chipset differs from Intel P35 Express by the name: an insignificant different, of course.

Intel P31 Express shouldn’t be used for high-performance machines. “Shouldn’t†doesn’t mean it won’t. Overall, the borderline between Performance PC and Mainstream PC is pretty washed out today, and we will definitely compare the performance of Intel P31 Express chipset against that of Intel P35 Express chipset in the end of our today’s review.

Intel P31 Express doesn’t support Intel Core 2 Extreme processors. However, it officially supports Intel Core 2 Quad. Firstly, this is a much more up-to-date feature than the support of thousand-dollar Core 2 Extreme. And secondly, what is the actual difference between Core 2 Extreme and Core 2 Quad? The price and unlocked frequency multiplier apart, there is nothing else, so Intel Core 2 Extreme processors will work in Intel P31 Express based mainboards just fine.

Intel P31 Express doesn’t support 1333MHz processor bus. I am sure that ASRock engineers loved this joke. Just look at the actual name of the mainboards we are talking about today: ASRock 4Core1333-eSATA2. If this doesn’t help, look at its technical specifications and try to figure out if it actually supports 1333MHz FSB

Intel P31 Express chipset supports maximum 4GB of system memory, while Intel P35 Express officially supports maximum 8GB. If I were a marketing specialist, I would probably claim that Intel P35 Express chipset is twice as good as Intel P31 Express from this prospective. And no one would be able to call me a liar, because it is absolutely correct. It is a different question, that there is no real practical benefit to this feature yet. Until the infrastructure switches completely to 64-bit operating systems and 64-bit applications, it doesn’t make much sense to install even 4GB of RAM, not to mention 8GB. When that happens, we will see completely different mainboards on totally new chipsets taking over the marketplace, so this really significant advantage of the Intel P35 Express will not be of any practical value for a long time. However, it is hard to object to actual numbers like that: support of only 4GB of RAM is indeed a drawback, although only a theoretical one at this time.
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The P31 boards have integrated graphics I do believe, therefore not being able to OC as well
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P35.
    
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The P31 boards have integrated graphics I do believe, therefore not being able to OC as well
They OC Okay. But nothing like P35s. And P31's have Ich 7 sb's and P35s have Ich 9 and Ich 9 Rs
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My board overclocks so easy I was surprised. It cost 100 bucks canadian when I bought it.
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They OC Okay. But nothing like P35s. And P31's have Ich 7 sb's and P35s have Ich 9 and Ich 9 Rs
pretty much.
i've used a few P31 boards and the differences i've noticed between p31 and p35 are OC capability and a few BIOS options missing here and there. A good ~400 FSB is more than reachable with the P31, but some aftermarket cooling would definitely get you a bit further since the stock heatsinks are pretty craptastic once you start ramping up volts.

also notable is lack of "official" 1333 FSB support, but if i remember correctly there may be a BIOS update that offers support.

and only the G31s have integrated. so no worries about having that to deal with.
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They OC Okay. But nothing like P35s. And P31's have Ich 7 sb's and P35s have Ich 9 and Ich 9 Rs
ICH9R has RAID 0+1, 3, 5, 10 and JBOD Capabilities, right?

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My board overclocks so easy I was surprised. It cost 100 bucks canadian when I bought it.
Yeah, I bought a P5K (P35 chipset) and It clocked my Q6600 to 3.6Ghz no problem.
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Okay, so the p35 overclocks better then the p31.
That's all I needed to know, thanks everyone. x]
    
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yep they do



and a few more features
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