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Doom-filled warnings arrive from AT&T this week. The company says that without substantial investment in network infrastructure, the Internet will essentially run out of bandwidth in just two short years.


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Don't think the internet can run out of bandwidth.
 
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What they are saying is everyone is getting faster and faster internet in their homes. All the internet back bones will soon not be able to support so many users with high speed connections.
 
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Don't think the internet can run out of bandwidth.

Of course it can. Its a little hard to go in depth without you having knowledge about the actual infrastructure; but basically everything is connected by cables that support alot of bandwidth (fiber optic cables). However, they have a limit to how much bandwidth they have, and even though there are alot of cables connecting the internet together, and even redundant cables, it is possible for them to get swamped. An example of this would be too connect a switch to a router, connect a pc to the router, and connect 4 PC's to the switch and send alot of large files over to the pc thats on the router. The transfer will be alot slower than if you sent them 1 by one, because the cable is maxed out bandwidth wise. The exact same is true, even if they are 10Gbps cables.

Edit: Yep Soul, thats basically it. The infrastructure built in the 90's and just casually upgraded just cant sustain what users are expecting and wanting now-a-days.
 
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What they are saying is everyone is getting faster and faster internet in their homes. All the internet back bones will soon not be able to support so many users with high speed connections.
True but the problem is the greedy bastages have been sucking the cash in and not investing it back into the product (aka the backbones). So now they want to run around like chicken little declaring the sky is falling when it is due to their poor management. I guarantee they will look for a government handout to fix their poor management decisions. , ala the current banking crisis. You wait it and see it will happen.
 
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So....how would that make it D-Day? C'mon Yahoo......

Sounds to me like AT&T raked in the profits too long without upgrading infrastructure. I'm no network engineer, but that's just what it sounds like to me.
 
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You know on second thought I bet IPV6 will bring down the overhead (or whatever revamped protocols are coming up next after IPV6)
 
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the internet "is" being upgraded.

the tri county area i live in is putting in a 79 mile loop threw 3 counties.. the hospital 3-5 blocks away (depends if you drive or fly) will be the first to get it. and verizon is branching off the backbone i guess. cost is over $1m for the backbone. but the 3 counties can pay for that =D

i cant way to use/abuse a 15/15mbit plan
 
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You know on second thought I bet IPV6 will bring down the overhead (or whatever revamped protocols are coming up next after IPV6)
Eh? Dont expect new revamped protocols to come in with IPV6 to replace the stuff we use now... Likely no reduction in overhead sadly; they all just need to upgrade their backbones.
 
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And how much money was it again that the major telecoms were simply HANDED by congress? That they did nothing with.
 
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^ Hillarious!

The southpark thing...

~Gooda~

Yeah I just watched that one online.

Heading out to cali-forn-i-a
 
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-start rant -

i certainly HOPE the govt doesnt get invovled. SHAME on the govt for getting involved w banking. banks took high risks and lost. (well the govt FORCED them to approve high risk loans for poorer people). All this coulda been avoided if the GOVT didnt stick its face in everyone's business. another perfect example... ETHANOL. we now have a food crisis for "bio"fuels that burn LESS effeciently on the "global warming" scam.

-end rant-

the internet companies will figure a way to deal with it. they always do. Those that dont will suffer and collapse. Good ridance.
 
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anyone see the grapes of wrath themed southpark about this on wednesday?

lol. i love that, "we're going out Californ-ee way to find some internet" and the part where he jacks off all over the room,
"the ghost, did you see it it slimed me!"
 
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-start rant -

i certainly HOPE the govt doesnt get invovled. SHAME on the govt for getting involved w banking. banks took high risks and lost. (well the govt FORCED them to approve high risk loans for poorer people). All this coulda been avoided if the GOVT didnt stick its face in everyone's business. another perfect example... ETHANOL. we now have a food crisis for "bio"fuels that burn LESS effeciently on the "global warming" scam.

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the internet companies will figure a way to deal with it. they always do. Those that dont will suffer and collapse. Good ridance.

Umm, you think the ISP are going to fix the problem? THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT WORSE! They get public money all the time and waste it, then say they need more and that net neutrality hinders performance when it doesn't. The government for once would be helping us fix the problem.
 
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You know on second thought I bet IPV6 will bring down the overhead (or whatever revamped protocols are coming up next after IPV6)

Uh, no. IPv6 is just a different way of naming computers (or gateways) on networks. It will not bring down the overhead. A 100mb file will still be a 100mb file.
 
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Originally Posted by Boris4ka
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AT&T isn't the internet. Stupid Yahoo.

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AT+T handles the physical media (cables) within the US, but not the entire world.

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What they are saying is everyone is getting faster and faster internet in their homes. All the internet back bones will soon not be able to support so many users with high speed connections.

In networking terms, a "backbone" refers to a main segment, usually a cable, where the majority of terminals are connected. The problem is, government officials and senators aren't aren't going to be as tech savvy as your tyical IT professional.
 
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dont think you guys are seeing the real problem here, no band' means no streaming porn!
j.k

The real issue is that the gov' will blame the ISP's and the ISP's willl blame the gov' and then there will be limitations and what not, an excuse to control p2p band in exchange for other kinds of traffic...

buracrats sitting on their asses and doing nothing is whats "killing" everything, many things need to get done already, but they argue so much about which one needs to go first that nothing get done eventually, and the sad thing is that none of them really cares, but their endorsers do so they champion a cause even if it's pointless to the public.....
 
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Remember the article a while back on the cost of fiber optics to every home- Yeah, thats what needs to happen.

Within the next 20 or so years, all of our infrastructure will need to be replaced. I am referring to bridges, municipal water, and roads. There is an article about the expected lifespan of them, I am just to lazy to go find it. Thats why there is google.
 
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Originally Posted by AARDVARCUS View Post
Remember the article a while back on the cost of fiber optics to every home- Yeah, thats what needs to happen.

Within the next 20 or so years, all of our infrastructure will need to be replaced. I am referring to bridges, municipal water, and roads. There is an article about the expected lifespan of them, I am just to lazy to go find it. Thats why there is google.
Well, all the roadways, bridges and etc are replaced continually. It's not one lump replacement every 20 some years.
 
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