Originally Posted by ENTERPRISE
You all forget that without AMD Intel would not be forced to make any advancements...
i dont want want amd to die, i want them to stop taking blow after blow from intel, stand up and release something earth shattering, something that will allow me to buy an E8400 for $120 or even the amd equivalent if they can make one.
im not a fanboy, so by no means am i going to defend this pile of crap called the 9800gx2. i was surprised people actually bought this card. yes it may be THE fastest card in the market but come on, $600 for a program to say you have more points
. effing ridiculous. but a card i am
going to defend is the 9800gtx. currently its the best bang for the buck in the high end segment.
Originally Posted by OpTicaL
By saying that, you are a numbers person. If you go by benchmarks and pit ATi's current best (3870x2) with Nvidia's current best (9800GX2) then Nvidia wins.
Look at real world performance. Can you honestly feel a 5% difference? Just because a car has more horsepower and torque than another car doesn't mean the more powerful car will win the race.
real world performance? something like this?
...and im not even gonna mention AA.
...and the $100 price difference between the 3870x2 and the 9800gtx
Originally Posted by RayvinAzn
For professional 3D users mainly centered around Maya, ATI still has a performance edge over Nvidia. The AGP market is entirely cornered by ATI. For budget gamers (sub-$100), ATI seems to be a better way to go. And the HD3870X2 is still the best card on the market for its price. There's also the matter of Crossfire support, which has much more appealing chipsets right now. Last but not least, the IGP market is still cornered by AMD (although that could be considered part of chipsets), at least until we see more of the 8200.
agreed on most of it. but those segments you described are very small compared to the segment the 9600gt, 8800gt & 8800gts are in. thats where the real market is. ati have just one card in that range that can barely keep up with the 8800gt and gets beat by a stock 9600gt w/ AA turned on. and absolutely nothing to rival the 8800gts. after the 3870 theres a huge jump to the highest end of graphics cards with the 3870x2 and a huge gaping hole between the two. and the fact that nforce is still not dead, with all its issues and problems, just shows how much of a success SLI is. if ati played their cards right they could kill the nforce with proper marketing and ofcourse a GPU that beats the 8800gt and scales really well. that would atleast make nvidia hand over SLI licences to intel and everyone could live happily ever after.