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Well I'm upgradeing my sig rig a bit. I've long wanted a HD DVD/Blu Ray combo drive, and a harddrive for the longest time now. Now that I'll have the money in a week I plan on doing a few things.


Right now I have 1 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB.

I'm thinking at this point anyhow to get a second one. I don't really need it for storage as I have about 200 GB free + on my current single drive. Plus and external.

My reasoning behind this is either 1, Performance or 2, Backup/Reliability.

Do you think I should get a second drive of what I've got and use it in a Raid mirroring array? Or just do manual full backups to the new 500GB drive.

OR

Go for performance and get a 75GB raptor and keep my installed software and OS on it while using the 500GB drive as storage.

With the 500GB as storage that would be plenty of space to add a backup copy of the raptor on it for backup purposes.
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hmmm...That is a dilemma. Well, if you want performance - get the raptor. However if you have really important data you would really really hate to lose, go for RAID redundancy. Manual backups are not great...I always forget to do them then regret it later . Wish I had RAID though Mind you RAID 0 with those drives will probably pwn the raptors, its just multiplying your risks of HDD failure by 2.
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hmmm...That is a dilemma. Well, if you want performance - get the raptor. However if you have really important data you would really really hate to lose, go for RAID redundancy. Manual backups are not great...I always forget to do them then regret it later . Wish I had RAID though Mind you RAID 0 with those drives will probably pwn the raptors, its just multiplying your risks of HDD failure by 2.
Really Raid 0 hurts the lifetime? Bah..

Yeah the 500GB sata 2 drives are SE,SE16, and RE. Funny thing is I think the SE16 drives are better then the server class RE drives. I bought the server RE version for my brothers build and I regret it! It's VERY load, reminds me of the days of the old Pentium 1 era.

SE and SE 16 are the same drive just the SE16 has the 16MB cache, which in all honesty I'm not sure just how much that really adds to speed. The RE is just a dissapointment like I said.

Would I get a performance boost while mirrored? or is that only for striping?
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Really Raid 0 hurts the lifetime? Bah..
No but if one drive fails, you lose most of your data 8 times out of 10. Its not RAID that makes it fail, just that HDD's do quite often fail.

Mirroring gives no performance boost, just redundancy (backup)
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No but if one drive fails, you lose most of your data 8 times out of 10. Its not RAID that makes it fail, just that HDD's do quite often fail.

Mirroring gives no performance boost, just redundancy (backup)
OK that's what I thought. Would I notice a major difference if I stipped them?

I suppose if a drive failed I could live with out a back up as long as I keep my important stuff on my external.
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OK that's what I thought. Would I notice a major difference if I stipped them?

I suppose if a drive failed I could live with out a back up as long as I keep my important stuff on my external.
If you are good at backing up (unlike me) then go for RAID 0, you should see the difference.
Stiping certainly gives a perfomance boost, twice the cache, faster read/write speeds.

Heres a good guide on installing RAID0 -
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/48758-...ers-guide.html

Failure rates by Chozart-
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/86944-...hard-disk.html

Speed comparisons by Chozert-
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/90757-...-should-i.html

^^^All recommended reading before buying.
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Nice man thanks +Rep to j00.
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