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Facing a June 30 deadline to stop selling PCs with Windows XP, the world's largest computer makers are getting creative.

Taking advantage of the "downgrade rights" offered as part of the Windows Vista license agreement, Hewlett-Packard and Dell both plan to offer machines loaded with XP well beyond June.

Technically, the computers will be Vista Business or Vista Ultimate machines that have been factory downgraded to XP at the customer's request. In practice, they are more like XP machines that come with an already paid-for upgrade to Vista when and if the customer chooses to do so.


HP said it plans to continue selling the "pre-downgraded" desktops, notebooks, and workstations to its business customers until July 30, 2009. Dell is already pitching the same option on its Web site and promising the models will stick around long after it stops taking standard XP orders on June 18. Other computer makers tell CNET News.com they are still exploring what to do but also want to sell XP beyond June 30.

There are limits to the approach being taken by HP and Dell. Only the Business and Ultimate flavors of Vista come with downgrade rights, meaning consumer machines can't be sold in a similar fashion.

While companies can offer pre-downgraded machines via their Web site, things get a little more complicated when it comes to buying a PC at retail stores. It may be possible for customers to buy such a machine, but just how this will work--and if stores will offer such an option--is not totally clear. The tricky issue is that, to stay within Microsoft's terms, the customer has to somehow "request" the XP downgrade.
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I can understand downgrading if your PC can't handle Vista's hardware requirements, but why downgrade a PC capable of running Vista. Vista has everything XP has and more. In the end you're still paying for Vista, but only getting XP.
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In my opinion, some computer's just become unstable with vista. It needs work just like XP did back when it was new it was an immature OS, when Windows XP SP2 came out the system became much more capable and stable...

lets just hope the same happens for vista.
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only reason I'm going with XP Pro for my new build is because I have a copy of it sitting here collecting dust. It's a financial problem. When I can afford it, I will be switching over to Vista Ultimate or at least Premium.

Even my Dad, an ex-microsoft Dev who worked on Vista for a while, said that he wouldn't touch Vista with a ten foot pole until SP1. Well now SP1 is out, things have gotten better as far as driver support goes, and Vista is chuggin' along. SP2 will probably be the same thing for Vista that it was for xp..

At least I wont have to wait too long for Vista to be affordable.. I do have an uncle who can pick me up a copy at the MS company store.
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I can understand downgrading if your PC can't handle Vista's hardware requirements, but why downgrade a PC capable of running Vista. Vista has everything XP has and more. In the end you're still paying for Vista, but only getting XP.
Because a lot hardware you own may not be compatible still.
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Case in point.
I work at Best Buy ( gotta make a living ) and customers will ask me if all our computers come with Vista. I'll tell them yes and they'll reply, oh Vista sucks.
When I ask them if they have even used before they say a slow no....
I don't know who's feeding all this hate for Vista. Must be all these PC magazines.
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Because a lot hardware you own may not be compatible still.
Which is fine, Xp isn't completely compatible with Windows 98 and some of the hardware that exsited at that time, but come on, on a new computer?
Why bother?
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There are plenty of Vista bashers....... even on this site. I'm not one of em. I'm using XP, only because I have no need to upgrade. My wife's lappy came with Vista Home Premium, and it's not a problem for her ( not to say she actually loves it......). My point is ... there are plenty of folks bashing Vista all over the web. Probably most of em no longer use it. I've learned from this site that Vista is something to be embraced.........
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Because a lot hardware you own may not be compatible still.
Thats such a minority now i don't think its a terribly large issue.
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This is great. This works out great for everyone. M$ sells a copy of vista and xp at the same time for the same computer so they are not missing out on any vista sales. And the whiny a** people that cry about vista can have xp.

It's a win win.
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