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"GTixel"?
1.6TeraFlops?? the latest i heard about the upcoming gpus was that a rv770xt was twice as fast as a 2900pro in 3dm06 9k=>18k
rumors i say.
    
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"GTixel"?
1.6TeraFlops?? the latest i heard about the upcoming gpus was that a rv770xt was twice as fast as a 2900pro in 3dm06 9k=>18k
rumors i say.
GT200 is supposed to have just over a 1 TFLOP. RV770xt will defintely be faster than RV600pro.
post #23 of 43
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Originally Posted by RussianGrimmReaper View Post
GT200 is supposed to have just over a 1 TFLOP. RV770xt will defintely be faster than RV600pro.
eh i meant to say the gpuz screenie is false and i know rv770xt will be definitely faster than rv600pro but this rv770xt detail looks completely absurd.
right now any news about the new cards should be taken with a truckload of salt.
    
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You're forgetting. The HD4870x2 will have one PCB, that cuts out a lot of money. They can sell the HD4870 for $280(Like the HD3870 when it came out) and $400-$450 for the x2, and they'd still make a killing against NVidia unless the GT200 sells for 600 or less(Won't happen) and performs 20%+ better than the HD4870(which makes no difference since you can get an HD4870x2 for less and still be able to max EVERYthing out)
I'm not forgetting anything... I do realize that AMD saves a chunk of change with their implementation of a single PCB dual GPU design. However the 3870x2 currently sells for $359(MIR)+ and the 3870 sells for $149(MIR)+.

The original MSRP for the 3870x2 was indeed for $449, however the original MSRP for the 3870 was $219. Retailers initially price gouged the 3870s (like they always do with new tech) then their MSRP was recently dropped so they could compete with the 8800gt's current price. IFF the MSRP of the 4870 is $349 I'd expect the 4870s MSRP to be double, much like it was with the HD3K series.

Speculation aside, ATI and Nvidia are very competitive atm. Each offering similar FPS/$ across a broad range of products... I don't expect that to change unless one of the two pulls ahead significantly(in terms of performance).
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post #25 of 43
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I'm not forgetting anything... I do realize that AMD saves a chunk of change with their implementation of a single PCB dual GPU design. However the 3870x2 currently sells for $359(MIR)+ and the 3870 sells for $149(MIR)+.

The original MSRP for the 3870x2 was indeed for $449, however the original MSRP for the 3870 was $219. Retailers initially price gouged the 3870s (like they always do with new tech) then their MSRP was recently dropped so they could compete with the 8800gt's current price. IFF the MSRP of the 4870 is $349 I'd expect the 4870s MSRP to be double, much like it was with the HD3K series.

Speculation aside, ATI and Nvidia are very competitive atm. Each offering similar FPS/$ across a broad range of products... I don't expect that to change unless one of the two pulls ahead significantly(in terms of performance).
THe HD3870's MSRP was originally $260 and the 8800GT was originally just over 300. THe HD4870 will come out at just under $300, and it will be in huge quanitities(71% efficiency in production so far) The HD4870x2 will be just under double what the HD4870 will be, which means about 450. NVidia won't be releasing the GT200 until H2 anyway, even when it does release it, the card will be more than twice what the HD4870 is and only perform a little bit better.
post #26 of 43
Seem fairly true on the specs. since the card isn't finished and GPU-Z can't probably read it yet.
Still no GDDR4 tough.
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THe HD3870's MSRP was originally $260 and the 8800GT was originally just over 300. THe HD4870 will come out at just under $300, and it will be in huge quanitities(71% efficiency in production so far) The HD4870x2 will be just under double what the HD4870 will be, which means about 450. NVidia won't be releasing the GT200 until H2 anyway, even when it does release it, the card will be more than twice what the HD4870 is and only perform a little bit better.
We'll see... I think you're a being a little optimistic with your figures. Let us assume what you say is true, GT200 will be roughly on par performance wise while costing nearly double. High end GFX cards are all about low volume and phat margins. AMD wouldn't charge $300 when they could sell it for $400+, that's just bad business.

BTW do you have a link to that $260/$300+MSRP... I could have sworn it's original MSRP was supposed to be around $219 and the 8800gt's was $249, though I could be wrong.
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post #28 of 43
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We'll see... I think you're a being a little optimistic with your figures. Let us assume what you say is true, GT200 will be roughly on par performance wise while costing nearly double. High end GFX cards are all about low volume and phat margins. AMD wouldn't charge $300 when they could sell it for $400+, that's just bad business.

BTW do you have a link to that $260/$300+MSRP... I could have sworn it's original MSRP was supposed to be around $219 and the 8800gt's was $249, though I could be wrong.
I just remember when the cards came out, the HD3870 was placed at it's MSRP, went out of stock and cost the same amount as an 8800GT.

The GT200 will outperform RV770xt 10-20%. Don't think otherwise. ATI won't sell the HD4870 for more than 300, they aren't that stupid, plus they've been getting 71% yields, that means they don't have to charge a lot to still make money.
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As always. let's compare price and performance of the upcoming products. I mean can it get any worse than that?

Seriously, just wait for them to get launched and then make comparisons. And comparison of the performance between ATI/nVidia is irrelevant, ATI current policy is that they make cheap midrange card, they are not even trying to make the most powerful solutions on the market, price/performance ratio is a different story, but it is too early for that.
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yep. the price/performance will be better. maybe comparing a 4870x2 for $500 to a 9900gtx for $700
Then you realize that you need neither to max out anything except Crysis, buy an 8800GT/HD3870, and walk away happily?
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