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Alright. I do apologize that these questions may be a bit typical, but I've got little time and a quick answer will do.

The (important) specs of my new system are the Q6700 quadcore cpu and 8GB of ram (I'm going to run vista for the first time -- for the extra ram limitation/64bit capabilities).


It seems as if there is a lot of talk about quadcore CPUs not being worth it because it's 'overkill', or that software doesn't take advantage of the 4 cores. Even if the software didn't take advantage of it -- wouldn't there still be some kind of benefit? Like, say if you're burning a DVD, encoding a video file, surfing the net, chatting, running some kind of virus scan -- all simultaneously. Surely the quadcore would help, right? I'm not sure if it would...


I've also read that 8GB of ram would be overkill, but that has to help as well I imagine. I broke down and decided to try vista due to the XP ram limitation and not having 64bit capabilities.

Let's say that all of the software in the world doesn't support more than 2 cores/multithreading; wouldn't the 4 cores still help if there were multiple instances of different programs running? I think if anything -- that's what the case will be for quadcore (for now) since I think that quadcore multithreading capabilities and other thingamajiggers aren't supported by a lot of software at the moment. (or if any)



Basically -- a system with 8GB of ram and the quadcore CPU I got -- I hope it was worth it, in some way.


I'll be running a studio setup with many DAW software programs and sample/VST instruments on this baby, so that's why I decided to get a new system.

Now... I don't know if this baby would even benefit from a small overclock or not, especially seeing as I am just going to use the stock fan.
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post #2 of 7
A quad core is indeed much less supported right now, but with the popularity of these chips rising, many programs and games will utilize quad core support.

If you're running multiple programs at once, like you described, a quad core is indeed helpful.

Just like before, 8 GB RAM may be overkill right now, but in the future, you won't regret upgrading now.

And please, update your User CP so we can see what your new system is!
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For example -- using the Cubase DAW software (64bit supported now) -- it's now supporting a total of 4GB of ram for various VST instruments, compared to the typical 2GB on 32bit systems.

Some of these VST instruments are EXTREMELY large due to them being 32bit audio samples, so I think 8GB is almost necessary for running a larger number at a time.

Using real samples instead of synthetic stuff for audio takes up mucho ram, so with my new system -- I could most likely almost run an entire orchestra (literally) worth of samples. I deal with mainly orchestral samples, but also anything and everything in between.

Loading just 2-3 patches (4 cellos/18violins/60-piece pizzicato strings) basically kills my old system with only 1GB ram, so I think this is going to help.
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post #4 of 7
It definitely will... you'll see a pretty extreme performance increase. I would suggest overclocking your Q6700 for best results. However, if you do overclock, get a big-ass fan to cool it down.
Like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134

Or depending on how much you OC, get a better fan.
post #5 of 7
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I probably should have gotten a better fan, but I just got a stock fan. It's on its way now, so I think I'd have to do it myself, and... I kinda don't feel like it


I've been running an XP3700 with 1GB of ram for nearly 3 years now, so I think I'll definitely see an increase in speed and performance all together.

I don't think overclocking will be that necessary, but it was just a thought. I'm sure I'll do just fine. The reason I asked is because with a stock fan -- maybe bumping it up just a small tad may not hurt it at all (with heat, etc).


I updated my system specs btw.
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post #6 of 7
No, the stock cooler ****ing blows. I would highly suggest upgrading to a nice one like i put above even if you dont plan on overclocking... it will do your CPU good.
post #7 of 7
Down the road programs will be able to use all four cores in that Q6700, so its great to have when they do come along.
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