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Hello OCN My quad is getting quite hot ever since day 1, even with the cpu and HS (with push/pull fans!) lapped. Load temps can go up to 70C!

Anywho, I've never assembled a WC System before, so I'd need your help. What I want to do is have the CPU WC'd only. No NB/SB/GPU or anything of the sort included. Secondly, if it would be possible, to have this setup inside the case, instead of the rad being outside.

What would be better than my TRUE? I was thinking a small rad, fits one 120MM fan and large tubing..

Anyway, help me out! Thanks.
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First start with your budget. A 120mm rad won't get you anywhere btw....
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First start with your budget. A 120mm rad won't get you anywhere btw....
Budget? (This stuffs doesnt have to be new btw) Uh.. 100-150? IDK anything about WCing. I just need something better than what I have. Shouldnt cost alot for a small rad and al lthat stuff (i think lol).

Why wont a small rad get my anywere? Im sure a well put kit with a small rad would do better than a TRUE.. lol if i sound noobish, forgive me.
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Small rads won't get the amount of heat out of the loop you need to surpass air cooling efficiency. Usually at least a 120x2 rad is necessary to beat air. Another issue is the block and how well it transfers the heat. Lastly, the pump also makes a huge difference in how well it all works due to flow rates and pressure. It is a bit of a hornets nest and unfortunately not a cheap one if done right. Can you go higher than $150? I just priced out a 120x2, pump, block and tubing and was at $280.
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Small rads won't get the amount of heat out of the loop you need to surpass air cooling efficiency. Usually at least a 120x2 rad is necessary to beat air. Another issue is the block and how well it transfers the heat. Lastly, the pump also makes a huge difference in how well it all works due to flow rates and pressure. It is a bit of a hornets nest and unfortunately not a cheap one if done right. Can you go higher than $150? I just priced out a 120x2, pump, block and tubing and was at $280.
I can do 280. Yeah. But if i must spend that much, it has to be ALOT better than what I have now, not just 5C.

edit: thanks! and, 280$ just to cool the cpu? seems rather expensive, but i can afford it none the less..
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Hello my friend I think that a good start for a self-contained water cooling setup exclusive to you cpu would have to be the Coolit series which begin around $119 for the koolit pure cpu cooler.

It has decent heat exchange for a self-contained unit.

However, if your wanting something that you can add-on other units in future such as nb,sb,memory,vgas' and the such it would not be a good idea.

Really, computer water cooling is a very specialised genre. The more specific you are about what you want now and/or in future should be how you determine your purchase decisions'.
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Quote:
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Budget? (This stuffs doesnt have to be new btw) Uh.. 100-150? IDK anything about WCing. I just need something better than what I have. Shouldnt cost alot for a small rad and al lthat stuff (i think lol).

Why wont a small rad get my anywere? Im sure a well put kit with a small rad would do better than a TRUE.. lol if i sound noobish, forgive me.
a single 120mm radiator can work i use one for my X2, but the temperature delta is pretty bad, likely wouldn't gain too much on the TRUE. i've no idea how well a single would fare on a Q6600 though.

Let's see off the top of my head:
$45 - DangerDen CPX1 pump
$65 - Dtek fuzion v2
~$30 - Bonneville Heatercore + materials to get barbs on it (here's one predone in case you don't want to DIY it, otherwise it's strictly an auto-parts + DIY time)
add price for fans of choice
add price for tubing of choice
add price for coolant/additives/distilled water and additives of choice

don't forget
~$5-15 in hose clamps (anything from Zipties to automotive worm drive clamps)

the budget racks up quickly i'm afraid. i'll verify the prices real quick though and add links as well

edit-------------------
added some links, anyone know if Petra's ships to Canada? I can't seem to find the info for the life of me
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O.K. If you are lookin to load ur quad at 5c then your going to have to either go with a 16wheel truckers radiator or go tec,phase change or chilled water. Your talking about spending alot more money...of the three categories mentioned the chilled water you should likely consider...as I am assuming that you must already have a decent cpu water block in which case you could get with spending $320 plus another 20 for a pump and small reservoir<not radiator> and you would then have sub-zero cooling for your cpu and in future you could add other components to the loop as the system would easily handle up to 1500btu/heat .
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