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Sony plans to commercialize the hybrid fuel cell system for mobile devices


Fuel cells are one of the items that will change the face of the electronics industry forever once they finally start making their way into electronic devices. Sony unveiled its own ultra-small hybrid fuel cell system that is small enough to fit in one hand.

The fuel cell system measures 50mm x 30mm and combines a fuel cell, Li-polymer secondary battery and a control circuit. According to TechOn this is the first time Sony has shown off a complete fuel cell system that has a control circuit and secondary battery.

Sony says that it expects to commercialize the fuel cell and an engineer from the Sony material Laboratory said, “We have been aiming to mount (a fuel-cell system) in mobile devices and finally reached a level of commercial design.” The fuel cell runs on methanol.

Methanol also powers the Mobion fuel cell that DailyTech covered last week that was integrated into a GPS prototype. However, the Mobion fuel cell is passive and the Sony fuel cell is active with a pump to move the methanol. Sony’s didn’t comment specifically on its fuel cell power output, but does say output can be as high as 3W.

According to Sony, 3W is enough power for a mobile device. The fuel cell is said to be able to run 14 hours in a mobile phone on 10mL of methanol. It’s not entirely clear if the fuel cell will power electronic devices directly or if it will charge the internal Li-ion battery, which will in turn power the electronic device the fuel cell is integrated into. The battery could also be used as a type of backup power system.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11677
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Erm isn't this like....erm dangerous?
 
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great, my cell phone is now going to contribute to global warming. Methanol... are you effing serious sony?
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great, my cell phone is now going to contribute to global warming. Methanol... are you effing serious sony?
lol and you think the current batteries in eveything are good for the environment.
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seems kinda pointless to me. who is going to fuel up there cell phones? seems to be too much of a hassle for the average consumer. dont get me wrong im all for fuel cells and alternative fuels........ just my
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Erm isn't this like....erm dangerous?
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10mL of Methanol
Even if it does ignite all at once, it'll burn up too quick to do any damage.
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lol and you think the current batteries in eveything are good for the environment.
Plus currently there is a battery storage due a to a fire in Asia. Also, the world's lithium supply is limited and dwindling FAST.
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http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/28/p...ll-efficiency/

Since methanol contains around 5kWh energy per liter, i think it's pretty decent option for energy source.



But still, i would rather take something like this:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/04/22...s-by-2010.html
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http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/28/p...ll-efficiency/

Since methanol contains around 5kWh energy per liter, i think it's pretty decent option for energy source.



But still, i would rather take something like this:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/04/22...s-by-2010.html
That device wont come by 2010. It's similar to the Aluminum/Gallium metal plate that generates H2 and O2 from water. The big issue is the cost of the materials, and the fact that aluminum is consumed in the process. Also what isn't mentioned is the fact that the rate of H2 production is probably low. Assuming that's the tech they're attempting to use.

As for Methanol, it's a great source, if the methanol is derived from a renewable process. Cellulosic Ethanol/methanol can be oxidized, and the CO2 that's produced is neutralized by the CO2 requirement for plant growth. I don't know why people would get nervous about this, the methanol used is NEVER 100%, it's usually some dilution with water. Here in the lab we use 1M. Much less flammable than gasoline. You probably have a better chance of having your Li-ion batteries burst into flames in your pocket.
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It would be like an instant charge. It would be just stick a fuel nozzle in, fill it up and put it back in, no more recharge time.
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