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again, what happens for those of us that don't have internet access? we're SOL?
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again, what happens for those of us that don't have internet access? we're SOL?
if you're that far buried under a thousand-ton rock then you probably won't buy Mass Effect anyway.
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if you're that far buried under a thousand-ton rock then you probably won't buy Mass Effect anyway.
I'll thank you to keep your mouth shut about things you don't know. Here's a little lesson for you. The military doesn't always authorize things in their living facilities, running cable wires and internet may just be one of them. But since you know so much about how everyone has the internet these days, I bet you knew that.

Then there are those of us with one dedicated line for a computer yet have more then one system. Or those of us who burned out a NIC card and are waiting on it and still want to play the game. There's a million possibilities that substitute your "thousand-ton rock." Do us all a favor and don't criticize someone's valid point with idiocy.
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I'll thank you to keep your mouth shut about things you don't know. Here's a little lesson for you. The military doesn't always authorize things in their living facilities, running cable wires and internet may just be one of them. But since you know so much about how everyone has the internet these days, I bet you knew that.

Then there are those of us with one dedicated line for a computer yet have more then one system. Or those of us who burned out a NIC card and are waiting on it and still want to play the game. There's a million possibilities that substitute your "thousand-ton rock." Do us all a favor and don't criticize someone's valid point with idiocy.
I'll bet there's a computers out there w/ 128KB of RAM and no CD/DVD-drive either. What about them? Are they SOL?

Anecdotes don't constitute as evidence.
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I'll bet there's a computers out there w/ 128KB of RAM and no CD/DVD-drive either. What about them? Are they SOL?

Anecdotes don't constitute as evidence.
We've met the requirements for a SINGLE player game. Online access isn't one of them. Does Crysis require online access to play. Does Timeshift require online access to play.The thought of forcing someone into an internet contract for a CD/DVD version of a single player game is ridiculous. Hardware wise we can run the game and everything the game requires. Idiotic criticism doesn't constitute as intelligent either.

And for those of you wondering, I Googled the system requirements of Mass Effect. They've been released.

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Minimum System Requirements

Operating System:
Windows XP or Vista

Processor:
2.4+GHz Intel or 2.0+GHz AMD

Memory:
1 Gigabyte RAM (XP)
2 Gigabyte RAM (Vista)

Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 6 series(6800GT or better)
ATI 1300XT or better (X1550, X1600 Pro and HD2400 are below minimum system requirements)

Hard Drive Space:
12 Gigabytes

Sound Card:
DirectX 9.0c compatible sound card and drivers

Recommended System Requirements

Operating System:
Windows XP or Vista

Processor:
2.6+GHz Intel or 2.4+GHz AMD

Memory:
2 Gigabyte RAM

Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX or higher
ATI X1800 XL series or higher

Hard Drive Space:
12 Gigabytes

Sound Card:
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If they truly have this call home feature then there apparently must be an offline version as well. Problem solved.
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Those are the requirements to run the game, not the requirements to own the license. Semantics? Probably, but I fail to see how this is such an inflammatory issue for the majority of players.

The problem with this debate is that BioWare's decision to force their software to verify the license has caused a heated emotional response (which is entirely valid) in many consumers. But any rational discussion of it's merits and flaws is often times supplanted exclusively by that reaction (which isn't all that valid).

I can go on and on about how BioWare has every right to protect their investment, even at the expense of a few unfortunate potential buyers; how there's nothing they're going to be doing that 99% of all new games released don't already do anyway; that this is at least attempting to help (however misguided and futile) PC gaming; but those arguments fall on deaf ears, cause some people can't stop shouting about privacy or personal circumstance or the massive inconvenience, but don't go much further than repeating those mantras louder and louder.

Nature of the beast for online discussion I guess; Anyway, sorry you can't play the game. It's still out on the X360 and if you want to play that's always and option.
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Hey guys, remember Bioshock for PC? Remember the flap over Securom, activation and all that other jazz? You miss it? I do!

Well the folks over at Bioware and EA have listened to my prayers and yes, Securom will be used in Mass Effect. Awesome! But that's not all! You'll have to activate it a la Bioshock AND the game's executable will check in with its home server every couple of days too! Yay!

Apparently, during the time you own and play the game, any significant hardware changes WILL cause the game NOT to run. That makes sense because let's face it, as PC owners and gamers, we're all pirates right? Right!

You think that's all? Nope! Spore will have the same scheme. A technical director over at Bioware's forums has confirmed this. I'm so happy.

Oh, and digital distro versions of the games will have the EXACT same executables and binaries so we're all stuck with the Securom love-in.

/rant

I'll post a link to the forums if people would like to see it for themselves although it's not hard to find.
give the crackers 2 days.
the only thing that's not pirated in this world is the PS3.
sorry if this is wrong,let me know and i'll never do it again i don't wanna get banned.
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This makes so many mad because the legit gamer is being punished for buying a game pirates will crack the game and have no issues with it checking in. While if i bought the game and went on vacation where i had no internet in 10 days i wouldn't be able to play the game. Or if i had a motherboard die and cpu die and decided to say switch from amd to intel or intel to amd then the game would no longer run and i would have to jump thru hoops to get a game i bought to work.
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post #39 of 41
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Those are the requirements to run the game, not the requirements to own the license. Semantics? Probably, but I fail to see how this is such an inflammatory issue for the majority of players.

The problem with this debate is that BioWare's decision to force their software to verify the license has caused a heated emotional response (which is entirely valid) in many consumers. But any rational discussion of it's merits and flaws is often times supplanted exclusively by that reaction (which isn't all that valid).

I can go on and on about how BioWare has every right to protect their investment, even at the expense of a few unfortunate potential buyers; how there's nothing they're going to be doing that 99% of all new games released don't already do anyway; that this is at least attempting to help (however misguided and futile) PC gaming; but those arguments fall on deaf ears, cause some people can't stop shouting about privacy or personal circumstance or the massive inconvenience, but don't go much further than repeating those mantras louder and louder.

Nature of the beast for online discussion I guess; Anyway, sorry you can't play the game. It's still out on the X360 and if you want to play that's always and option.
Well now Bioware has 2 problems. 1 if there truly is a call home feature then they failed to mention you require an internet to connection to play the game. Even an online MMORPG lists "Internet connection required for online play." when the very nature of the game suggests that you need it. 2 The giant inconvenience and loss of buyers from their copyright protection. Go look at the news section or earlier in the section at the number of people saying "Was looking forward to this but I'm passing because of this." They've already started losing some of their customers. So are 99% of the people truly willing to do this and put up with it? Meh, I wouldn't claim that high. This is another reason piracy so big. I own Bioshock, but I still dl'ed the cracks for it because I dont want to deal with the hassle of activating it.
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give the crackers 2 days.
the only thing that's not pirated in this world is the PS3.
sorry if this is wrong,let me know and i'll never do it again i don't wanna get banned.
sorry, but your wrong, the ps3, 360, psp, ds, wii, all consoles that can have a harddrive in it, can play pirated games

ps3 can, a few google searches you can find ps3 iso's, along with how to run etc

psp being the easiest console for all of it
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