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In this day its pretty rare not to have an internet connection available. which is why i believe all games should require some type of log in with an account created with a unique cd-key like mmos but for ALL games(yes even the singlest of singleplayer).

Thats really the only way to stop piracy..

and sorry anyone who goes and pirates this game because of it would have anyway
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Exactly, and those games are far more difficult to crack into. That's the point. But it's somehow perfectly legitimate for all those apps check your license when you log in, and not BioWare?
I see what you're saying. Despite genre, both games require license cheks. I agree.
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Exactly, and those games are far more difficult to crack into. That's the point. But it's somehow perfectly legitimate for all those apps check your license when you log in, and not BioWare?

Your anger is fine, but please be consistent about it.
Anger?
I'm not angry lol.
You do raise a good point that these online apps check your license when you login, however the point is that they can reliably expect there to be an internet connection as that is core to the gameplay experience, however a singleplayer game cannot reliably assume you have an internet connection, also those online games can still be played in an offline mode, with mass effect which is a offline game if your internet is down then EA's stance appears to be "tough luck."
Like I've said a one time internet activation is perfectly fine for a singleplayer game, however you shouldn't require an internet connection to be able to play it.

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In this day its pretty rare not to have an internet connection available. which is why i believe all games should require some type of log in with an account created with a unique cd-key like mmos but for ALL games(yes even the singlest of singleplayer).

Thats really the only way to stop piracy..

and sorry anyone who goes and pirates this game because of it would have anyway
You raise a good point point however I'm not arguing about people who don't have an internet connection not being able to play the game, I'm arguing about the fact that if your internet is down then you can't play this singleplayer offline game, that's a joke to be honest.
    
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If your internet's down, you can't play CS:S, WoW, CoD4 MP, anything Battle.net, ect,ect. I guess Valve, Blizzard, and IW are all treating us like dirt too, right?

I'm having a hard time understanding the vitriol as well. There is most likely going to be a "de-license" app like bioshock has for system reinstalls, so that point is moot.

There's a lot of high-minded talk everywhere about having to "support PC gaming" and "don't pirate" but when the you're called on to do just that, and tolerate a small, (at worst) mild inconvenience to do so, everyone throws a fit.
The difference between Mass Effect and the games you listed is.... THEY ONLY PLAY ONLINE.... Mass Effect is SINGLE PLAYER.

[inventative story]

In a parallel universe, Windows XP requires to connect to the internet to check your key everytime it boots up.

You buy windows XP and install it on this craptastic pentium 3 laptop for your grandma so that she can type things out because she can't talk anymore and people will be able to read what's written on the screen.

Your grandma is in a shopping center and is trying to ask someone for bread. She turns on her computer and it tells her : Error, connect to the internet to boot up Windows.

1st fix: Illegally crack it. Usualy just copy and paste a file... you MIGHT have to run one sometimes. Easy as cake. You can even tell your grandma on the phone how to do it in 15 seconds.

2nd fix: Suck it up. Stay on the "legal side" and you won't be able to use the machine for what it could be useful half the time.

[/inventative story]

That's what Mass Effect is to people. Whenever your internet is down, you can just fire up this single player game and have fun but noooooo! it needs to be connected to the internet....

This is why Steam is praised. Someone above said that whenever you turn it on it checks for updates and that can take ages and that you always need to be connected to the internet to play.

Wrong.

1. OFFLINE MODE! Save your information on the computer and you will never ever need to connect to the internet ever again.

2. Right click on the game. Remove Check for Updates. It will never ask you to update again. Naturally, for multiplayer games it will not let you play until you update... but if you want to play a multiplayer game, you are connected to the internet.
    
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I don't have a problem with the checking every 10 days thing, it's the activation limit that pisses me off. I reinstall every month which means I get to play the game for 3 months and then have to buy a new copy. BS.
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I don't have a problem with the checking every 10 days thing, it's the activation limit that pisses me off. I reinstall every month which means I get to play the game for 3 months and then have to buy a new copy. BS.
That's also a problem

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[inventative story]

In a parallel universe, Windows XP requires to connect to the internet to check your key everytime it boots up.

You buy windows XP and install it on this craptastic pentium 3 laptop for your grandma so that she can type things out because she can't talk anymore and people will be able to read what's written on the screen.

Your grandma is in a shopping center and is trying to ask someone for bread. She turns on her computer and it tells her : Error, connect to the internet to boot up Windows.

1st fix: Illegally crack it. Usualy just copy and paste a file... you MIGHT have to run one sometimes. Easy as cake. You can even tell your grandma on the phone how to do it in 15 seconds.

2nd fix: Suck it up. Stay on the "legal side" and you won't be able to use the machine for what it could be useful half the time.

[/inventative story]
That's an insanely good analogy
Well played lol.
    
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If anyone thinks this is speculation, the staff on the official bioware forum are all the source of this. I linked to the news post on that site because it did a nice job of summing up two rather large threads, but it links to the forum for anyone who can be bothered.
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If anyone thinks this is speculation, the staff on the official bioware forum are all the source of this. I linked to the news post on that site because it did a nice job of summing up two rather large threads, but it links to the forum for anyone who can be bothered.
Well there you go then... Look's like the bioshock take 2 lol.
    
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That is the absolute worst analogy I have heard in awhile. Mass Effect has absolutely no online component at all. Why should you need an internet connection to play it?
It wasn't meant as analogy, but counterpoint.
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Bioshock's protection was fine with me. After i realized that their font sucked on the serial key on the box i got it up and running in less then a minute. (Excluding the hour i spent trying to tell the difference between O and 0.)
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