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EA is pretty notorious for dropping support for old titles, too.
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Same here, I installed Bioshock played it nothing happened to me.
I don't get how anyone would need to be upset over this unless:

1. You don't have internet. (Honestly who doesn't have a active 24/7 connection)

2. You are probably trying to use virtual drives you cheap *******.

3. Change your hardware every week or something? Most people don't upgrade their computer's in years.
1. you'd be surprised at that... there are still lots of places with dodgy or less than active 24/7 internet, and many people seem to forget that, which is extremely annoying tbh.

2. what's wrong with virtual drives? they have perfectly legitimate uses, ie, browsing throw legally downloaded windows disks for whatever reason, ie reading the EULA or w/e.

3. what if someone has to RMA, or swap out a DVD drive, or something? it can happen, and preventing people from playing a game because of it is crazy...

Activating over the internet every 10 days? don't you think if the person bought it they will have it and not just decide to get a pirated copy as well??? and if it's single player why does it need to constantly activate? Here's a thought. Maybe there's more to people's lives than just one game? Honestly... these draconian measures are just getting ridiculous... much as i love bioshock, the DRM pissed me off to no end, and having to run that revoke tool before each format is annoying.

the only quote i can say came from someone in these forums...

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
No, says the man in Washington: it belongs to Securom
No, says the man in the Vatican: it belongs to Securom
No, says the man in Moscow: it belongs to Securom

excessive DRM is what is 'killing' PC gaming
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I find it a shame that thease developers feel they have to go to the legnth of treating every single user as potential pirate "yarg" but seriously though everytime a developer trys to protect their games its turns into a spawning pit for flamers, yes its a inconveniance but seriously people who have a rig capable of playing this game, how many of them arnt going to have a net connection?
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If your internet's down, you can't play CS:S, WoW, CoD4 MP, anything Battle.net, ect,ect. I guess Valve, Blizzard, and IW are all treating us like dirt too, right?
That's a really, really bad argument. You cannot play it if your net's down because of technical limitations, not because the publisher decided the game has to call home whenever you start it.

And the funniest part is pirate's are going to disable the "call home" thingie or perhaps even use a local server that will emulate it... so the only people who are going to get screwed over by this are the people who purchased the game.

This is why people are angry - it doesn't do much for stopping piracy (and not even casual piracy - everybody know where and how to download a crack nowadays), and only causes trouble for legitimate players.
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This will not prevent anyone from copying in the end.
Most likely they are targeting to hold copyboys back for a week or two, when some big money usually moves.
Some people will give up waiting and buys it and some others who want's it fast as possible...



I believe atleast Valve's games in steam are supposed to run 30 days offline after last internet contact.
Sadly, last time this feature worked for me was in year 2005-2006.
I have found a little bit annoying when i have been offline from 7 to 170 days in past years.
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Thanks for the info. I just canceled my Pre-Order.

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post #67 of 93
Bioshock was blown way out of proportion. It sucked big time, but there were people freaking out. I couldn't play the game the night I bought it (at 1AM), but I played it the next day.

I'm still buying Mass Effect too....
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If I can't buy it through Steam, I am pirating it on general principle. No company should ever do that.

I applaud Stardock and Ironclad for their effort with Sins. So much so that I sent them $80 in the mail, the price of two games.
That is why you shouldn't be allowed to enjoy PC games. You should be forced to play nothing but watered down console ports. It's people like you that are causing these sort of extreme measures, and I'm sick of it.
If you don't like the way the game is distributed/verified, then DON'T PLAY IT. Simple as that.

BTW why do you prefer Steam? Steam is the exact same thing, except you can play in offline mode. I'm not sure how long offline mode works......but either way Steam is more obtrusive than a quick network key check.
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This will not prevent anyone from copying in the end.
Most likely they are targeting to hold copyboys back for a week or two, when some big money usually moves.
Some people will give up waiting and buys it and some others who want's it fast as possible...



I believe atleast Valve's games in steam are supposed to run 30 days offline after last internet contact.
Sadly, last time this feature worked for me was in year 2005-2006.
I have found a little bit annoying when i have been offline from 7 to 170 days in past years.
Now THAT makes sense. If EA wants to have insane protections active for the first week or month to prevent 0day piracy, that is fine with me. How about, it needs to be authenticated every 10 days for the first 30 days... then EA can release a patch that disables it. I think most people would find this MUCH more tolerable.
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I could not possibly care less about this type of DRM.
    
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BTW why do you prefer Steam? Steam is the exact same thing, except you can play in offline mode. I'm not sure how long offline mode works......but either way Steam is more obtrusive than a quick network key check.

Why would you say it's "the exact same thing" then right after say why it is exactly NOT the same thing. Thats the whole damn point is that with this scheme you will not be able to play this strictly offline single player game, OFFLINE. And the 3 activation limit is stupid too when it's tied to hardware changes, say you build a new pc to play the game, so theres 1 down, well the pc works for a few days and then the hdd fails, well theres 2, once the hdd is replaced a few days later you find out that it wasn't the hdd it was the mobo, so you RMA that and, opps, now you have to buy the game again.


And the big point is here, SECUROM NEVER WORKS RIGHT! Il2:1946 came out with a version of securom that does nothing more than check the dvd to make sure it's an actual game disk not a virtula drive or a burned disk. Well, come to find out that over half the people who bought it could not play it because securom wouldn't work with thier dvd drives firmware, you either had to update the firmware or if no new firmaware was available, buy a new dvd drive. Also this securom on the 1946 dvd will not work with vista in almost all cases, so everyone with vista who buys this game ends up on the help forums asking wth is going on and guess what we have to do to help them? We have to PM them a link to where to get the CRACKED exe. Thats right, this is the only way to run the securom protected version of that game on vista, when they released the US version they simply removed it because they knew it wasn't working, but there are tons of the euro version still out there causing trouble for legit users every day. This is why this kind of DRM scheme doesn't work, because no software is perfect and when it malfunctions and you can no longer play the game you purchased, well then you have to go to the "enemy" and get a fixed .exe......
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