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Originally Posted by nate911 View Post
I have a few questions...

1. What about MP3 LAME, what is that?

2. I have a very small iPod (1GB), would it be worth it to put high quality music on it, what quality would work on the player? I use Yuin PK2s for headphones when listening to my iPod.

3. Would I be better off using (slightly) lower quality music to copy onto my iPod, or store my music at high quality then convert it down for the iPod (what formats would I need for that?)?

Sorry for kind of hijacking..

EDIT: To the post above me: Am I blind? I don't see much difference..
I would just use MP3 Lame VBR quality setting 0 for ipod use, since your probably just using low end headphones, plus 1GB would fit like three FLAC albums lol. Though, I think it would be worth it to store lossless copies on your computer, it is always nice to have them. Make sure to always use a lossless source when converting to another format. LAME is an MP3 encoder (an .exe really), it is known to be the best MP3 encoder.
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Originally Posted by nate911 View Post
I have a few questions...

1. What about MP3 LAME, what is that?

2. I have a very small iPod (1GB), would it be worth it to put high quality music on it, what quality would work on the player? I use Yuin PK2s for headphones when listening to my iPod.

3. Would I be better off using (slightly) lower quality music to copy onto my iPod, or store my music at high quality then convert it down for the iPod (what formats would I need for that?)?

Sorry for kind of hijacking..

EDIT: To the post above me: Am I blind? I don't see much difference..
LAME is just an encoder to encode wav to mp3 and backwards.

and it took me a while to see the difference (although i can hear it). Looks to me like the tops of the peaks have been ''blown'' to the right with mp3, wheras flac its a neat peak.
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I have a decent soundcard/speaker setup, and high-midrange earbuds and i can easily tell when a .wav file is playing against other mp3 tracks.

If you can spare the space and have a good soundcard + good speakers/or earbuds go with FLAC.

Also note that mp3s distort at high volumes and i have experienced it first hand.

Adding a second hard drive for your collection would eliminate any space crunch too.

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As for as I know iPods cannot handle FLAC or lossless audio.. I might be wrong..
I had a few lossless songs on my old nano, idk if they were downsampled or converted to MP4 but i could still hear the higher quality
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EDIT: To the post above me: Am I blind? I don't see much difference..
The mp3 image shows more black and is more blotchy than the lossless if you look closely
    
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As for as I know iPods cannot handle FLAC or lossless audio.. I might be wrong..


IMHO, get FLAC or any other lossless format for your computer, you can convert lossless to lossless (AKA FLAC to WMA lossless) and back and forth a million times without any loss of quality, however if you convert to a lossy format you will lose quality and never be able to get it back.

I would keep your lossless files on your computer and maybe rip 320kbps MP3s for your ipod (from your lossless files) which is the exact same as ripping them from the CD.

A single song in lossless is around 20-35MB, thats going to fill up a gig fast even if your ipod supports the formats.
iPod doesnt support FLAC, but there is a Apple Loseless Encoder-not sure what format it uses, probably AAC?

iPod doesnt support WMA either, just apple formats and mp3, maybe WAV.

I guess I'll just store FLAC and MP3 320kb files.

Would 320kb be better? What about VBR???

20-35MB!!! That's a lot of space.

EDIT: I don't have good headphones currently, other than my PK2s for iPod. I have Klispch Promedia 2.1 speakers and plan to get a AD700 very soon.
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iPod doesnt support FLAC, but there is a Apple Loseless Encoder-not sure what format it uses, probably AAC?

iPod doesnt support WMA either, just apple formats and mp3, maybe WAV.

I guess I'll just store FLAC and MP3 320kb files.

Would 320kb be better? What about VBR???

20-35MB!!! That's a lot of space.
I would use V0 MP3, which is VBR at the highest quality setting, it is basically the same quality as a 320 kbps CBR file. Go with FLAC for your computer though.
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I would use V0 MP3, which is VBR at the highest quality setting, it is basically the same quality as a 320 kbps CBR file.
What program should I use to convert? MP3 Lame or something else? How much would the size difference be between MP3 320kb and V0? Currently, I don't have any high quality music, so I assume there isn't any benefit to converting them to higher quality?
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post #17 of 20
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iPod doesnt support FLAC, but there is a Apple Loseless Encoder-not sure what format it uses, probably AAC?

iPod doesnt support WMA either, just apple formats and mp3, maybe WAV.

I guess I'll just store FLAC and MP3 320kb files.

Would 320kb be better? What about VBR???

20-35MB!!! That's a lot of space.

EDIT: I don't have good headphones currently, other than my PK2s for iPod. I have Klispch Promedia 2.1 speakers and plan to get a AD700 very soon.
VBR tends to be smaller without loosing quality, as the bitrate will fluctuate as needed(song goes silent, it would go way down, ect.)
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i knew mp3 compressed but i didn't think that much ...

mp3 320kbps is plenty for most i would have though ... like on ipod i find it enough if maybe a little overkill cause 192kbps mp3 sounds the same ... but on a decent speaker set flac must sound awesome
Heres some more proof on why MP3 is.....well crap.

This is the song "Breaking Benjamin - Breathe".

Sorry I accidentally saved it in JPEG, but it does its job.

@Nate, 320KBPS is the best MP3 you can get, then V0.
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For an iPod? 256Kbps AAC should be fine, and is comparable to 320Kbps MP3.
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post #20 of 20
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For an iPod? 256Kbps AAC should be fine, and is comparable to 320Kbps MP3.
Apple has its own lossess codec that can be used with apple ipod without third party software.. it's not ape/FLAC, but it's still pretty good for being on your iPod [about 50-100kbps loss, max]. then again, i feel you couldn't tell a world of difference without an LOD of sorts. but it would benefit, sure. if you have a nano 192kbps will do just fine.
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