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There is a 8800GTS for sale in the For Sale section for just 100 bucks....

http://www.overclock.net/sale/317372...fedex-usd.html
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EQ2 is actually a demanding game. More CPU though. My x1950pro run it fine, my cpu sucks. the 423socket prescotts ran slow and hot.

I have a better/faster computer, just has a really crappy vid card (x300/128mb).

My other option is to OC the prescott, which might be the way to go until I can afford a decent vid card for the amd.

I have an external exos, but thats a topic for another thread.
    
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Obviously I'd like to get better framerates in eq2.
EQ2 actually benefits VERY VERY LITTLE from a video card because the graphics engine runs almost solely on your CPU. In fact, some cheap $25 card is just as good as a $500 9800GX2 for that game.

Also, multi-core processors have absolutely no effect (the only extra thread is the network interface which is negligible). What you are looking for is to spend money on upgrading your processor and motherboard to get the highest single-core performance possible. E8400s at stock speeds will give you about 45FPS (with max gfx settings in qeynos harbor) with shadows turned off, and about 14FPS with them on. Buy one instead of a video card and overclock it, because thats about the best FPS you will get (you can have a 24 person raid be absolutely smooth at max settings minus shadows).

Trust me on this, one of the devs - Aeralik - used to be in my guild when I played it And those framerates I told you about were done with an E8400 at stock + a Radeon X850.


EDIT: I fogot to mention, you also want 4 gigs of ram. Ive seen that game using over 2 gigs of memory at once. When you zone, the game doesn't unload the textures of the old zone from memory. So when you run from zone to zone, you end up piling up the amount of memory you use. Thats why most people restart the game before raids and stuff, to clear out the old memory and reduce paging to disk. With 4 gigs you should be good to go no matter what though.
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EQ2 is actually a demanding game. More CPU though. My x1950pro run it fine, my cpu sucks. the 423socket prescotts ran slow and hot.

I have a better/faster computer, just has a really crappy vid card (x300/128mb).

My other option is to OC the prescott, which might be the way to go until I can afford a decent vid card for the amd.

I have an external exos, but thats a topic for another thread.
Out of curiosity, go here: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest

Run the test for your game and let us know what it says...
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I would get the 2600pro if you have to buy now, it should give as good performance as the agp x1900 then you won't be so cpu limited.

EDIT: Theres also a 8600gt here - http://www.overclock.net/sale/320865...0gt-256mb.html $60 shipped - an 8600gt will pwn a 7800gt BTW. Its less clear cut between the 2600pro though, depends if you want AA.
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Out of curiosity, go here: http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest

Run the test for your game and let us know what it says...
Not for nothing, but that game was designed EXTREMELY poorly. The technical "minimum requirements" for that game asks for a 1GHz P3, and I have even managed to run it on a P2-400MHz with 384MB of ram without it ever dropping under 25FPS, so system requirements really mean squat. The amount of CPU power that game needs directly relates to the graphic options you set. If you don't mind seeing lego blocks for graphics, you can run it on almost anything. But I'm pretty sure the OP wants to see all the fancy stuff while still maintaining high frame rates, and even QX9770s can't provide enough power for that because its limited to only one core.

The only catch was that loading between zones took about a minute and a half
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I'm a very poor person, but recently got a little money. and hello to everyone, haven't been on in awhile.

I have an AMD X2 5000+ system, and I need a pci-e card for it. Single card.

I'm currently playing eq2 mostly on a P4 3ghz Prescott (423socket) with an agp x1950pro (256mb)

Obviously I'd like to get better framerates in eq2.

Someone local has a Visiontek HD2600Pro 512mb for $60.
And someone had a XFX 8600 GT for $75.
nVidia BFG geforce 7800GT OC - $70

I run XP, DX10 isn't a concern currently, but would rather go with a newer card if the performance is similiar.

While I can go new, I'd rather go used if I can get a better card that way. Like i said, i'm a poor person.

Any ideas or suggestions will be much appreciated.

thanks
You cant use an 8800,in your old system. because the 8800 series are all pci express,
Socket 423, Like Williamette and prescott have agp 4x/8x on prescott,
im sure you knew that.. but.. in case u didnt.

But for the amd system, im assuming, its not a custom built, most likely a Hp(compaq)Computer, or Dell? I Would Reccomend, if you have a credit card Check, Tigerdirect.com they have tons of 8600gt,gs,gts,and more cards on that level, all for under 80$.
    
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7800GT is the fastest, if you want to prove otherwise back it up.
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If you don't mind MIR's -
HERE - Free shipping too.

Or buy it off of OCN, The seller says he's open to offers (price match?)-
http://www.overclock.net/sale/320865...0gt-256mb.html



EDIT: ^^^ hmmm....I don't trust that bench. Plus the 8600 series overclock very well, I have mine at near GTS speeds.
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I can tell you with good confidence, that out of the 2600Pro, 7800GT, and 8600GT; the 8600GT will likely perform the best. I created this 8600 Series Benchmark Compilation thread a while back, which shows 8600GT/GTS performance in a variety of games.

EDIT: According to the Tom's Hardware benchmark above, it seems the 7800GT outperforms the 8600GT.

Just a suggestion: If at all possible (budget-wise), you could spring for this XFX 8800GS 384MB for $130 ($99 after MIR). It would provide a very significant performance jump from any of the cards above.
    
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