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AMD should talk to Ocean Finance. They can consolidate their existing debts into one monthly, affordable and managable repayment and can borrow anything from £5,000 to £25,000.
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ATi's next dual GPU videocard, HD 4870 is rumored to be 2 cores one 1 die.
If they acually make that, expect it to be cheap as well as powerful. Thank AMD for that.
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ATi's next dual GPU videocard, HD 4870 is rumored to be 2 cores one 1 die.
If they acually make that, expect it to be cheap as well as powerful. Thank AMD for that.
I don't know if you've been reading the news, but the rumors are that the 4870 is going to be a 1 core GPU. There will be a 4870X2 thats going to be similar to the 3870x2, a two core, two GPU part. Making a complex dual core GPU is the opposite approach, and in fact would make it MORE expensive.
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LOL @ all the people who posted before even reading the quoted part of the article in the original post.
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RTFA.

It explicitly states CPU/GPU and semiconductor.
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Best move imo if they actually do it.
It also boils down to HOW they are going to split up. In my eyes 3 options:

a) Make the manufacturing a subsidiary of the CPU/GPU company. This would however negate the effect of splitting up as they would consolidate year end and thus the overall picture would remain the same.

b) Two separate entities that are just related parties.

c) Make a parent company called AMD/ATI that has all the management and administration, and have 2 subsidiaries below it, one of each division. Again the overall presentation at the year end will be same as A.
None of those three "options" you presented makes any sense--they all represent internal reorganizations, not actual split-ups. If they say they're splitting, that means that there will be two legally and financially separate entities (therefore, no consolidation). The best way to think of it would be that the CPU/GPU part turns into an nVidia-like entity, where they design the parts but don't actually fab them, then the semiconductor part becomes like a TSMC where they contract to produce CPUs/GPUs/chipsets etc. Certainly there may be close business links between the two parties but ultimately they'd become two distinct companies.
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None of those three "options" you presented makes any sense--they all represent internal reorganizations, not actual split-ups. If they say they're splitting, that means that there will be two legally and financially separate entities (therefore, no consolidation). The best way to think of it would be that the CPU/GPU part turns into an nVidia-like entity, where they design the parts but don't actually fab them, then the semiconductor part becomes like a TSMC where they contract to produce CPUs/GPUs/chipsets etc. Certainly there may be close business links between the two parties but ultimately they'd become two distinct companies.
Thats what option B was o.O Two entities that are just related :/ Don't need any consolidations for that.
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Thats what option B was o.O Two entities that are just related :/ Don't need any consolidations for that.
Yes you do. If you're reading a financial statement, "Related party transactions" are transactions between subsidiaries of the same parent company. "Related parties" is a term used to refer to operating companies that are legally bound and consolidate on a parent/holding company's financials.

In the end, it's just a semantic argument, but you'll find that in business semantics can be really important. Like multiple-billion-dollars important, in some cases.
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