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Ok i see now its ok to be a hacker but you cant pirate movies what a piece of crap our courts need to get a clue. The mpaa should be in legal trouble for using a hacker and invasion of privacy and all kinds of other laws they broke.
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post #22 of 86
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I'm glad this has finally happened, it's about time that the torrent sites can't hide behind the technicalities. These torrent sites are really no different then offering a direct download to the files.
Pardon my french, but do you know what the F*ck you are talking about?

No different than offering direct download?

*Gets flamethrower out*

First off, the way the Torrent-system (As I call it) works is that the seed-host (I.E. Torrentspy in this case) Does NOT actually host any files. The files are hosted by users around the world who are interested in that file. Like you and me. People like you see Piracy as a form of petty-crime. Much like purse-snatchers and common thugs. Boy-scouts of the Internet like you probobly could care less that Net neutrality has been killed, or having two-tiered Internet charges.

Whatever,though. If Piracy is illegal, it must be wrong,right?

Piracy is a form of communication to major companies. Seeing as how they cant hear the cries from the public, they will definitely feel it in their wallet - Since that appears to be a fat-cat soft-spot.

Secondly, Hide behind technicalities?
You find the fact that they dont actually host files just a "Technicality"?

Get off the Internet!
Go Wiki it!
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Pardon my french, but do you know what the F*ck you are talking about?

No different than offering direct download?

*Gets flamethrower out*

First off, the way the Torrent-system (As I call it) works is that the seed-host (I.E. Torrentspy in this case) Does NOT actually host any files. The files are hosted by users around the world who are interested in that file. Like you and me. People like you see Piracy as a form of petty-crime. Much like purse-snatchers and common thugs. Boy-scouts of the Internet like you probobly could care less that Net neutrality has been killed, or having two-tiered Internet charges.

Whatever,though. If Piracy is illegal, it must be wrong,right?

Piracy is a form of communication to major companies. Seeing as how they cant hear the cries from the public, they will definitely feel it in their wallet - Since that appears to be a fat-cat soft-spot.

Secondly, Hide behind technicalities?
You find the fact that they dont actually host files just a "Technicality"?

Get off the Internet!
Go Wiki it!
Gah!
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The biggest problem with our nation; technically incompetent judges and juries that believe the nonsense the MPAA feeds them.
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post #25 of 86
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The biggest problem with our nation; technically incompetent judges and juries that believe the nonsense the MPAA feeds them.
And another big problem is that people think they can steal.

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I hope someone slips on your sidewalk and sues you for $500,000. Damn good thing, eh?
Not even close to the same thing. TorrentSpy knew people were using their service for illegal purposes and did nothing about it. They are indeed in guilty. As far as the amount of the lawsuit/fine/whatever, it is seemingly excessive.
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And another big problem is that people think they can steal.
Call it whatever you want, the RIAA and MPAA are still disgusting organizations.

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Not even close to the same thing. TorrentSpy knew people were using their service for illegal purposes and did nothing about it. They are indeed in guilty. As far as the amount of the lawsuit/fine/whatever, it is seemingly excessive.
Torrentspy is no more an illegal service than google, or any other search engine, is. This is just yet another case of the big guy bullying the little guy.
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The biggest problem with our nation; technically incompetent judges and juries that believe the nonsense the MPAA feeds them.
heh, yeah, that's the biggest problem. Millions don't have healthcare, our military is bogged down in the middle of Arabia, the economy is failing, and some relatively inconsequential court case is all we should be indignant about.

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Call it whatever you want, the RIAA and MPAA are still disgusting organizations.

Torrentspy is no more an illegal service than google, or any other search engine, is. This is just yet another case of the big guy bullying the little guy.
I don't call it whatever I want, I call it what it is: stealing. Period. End of discussion. You cannot justify it.

If Google or another search engine offered ways to transfer files back and forth through their site, then you would have a point. But they don't, so you don't. There may be bullying going on, but it doesn't change whether or not their service was knowingly used by thieves.
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I don't call it whatever I want, I call it what it is: stealing. Period. End of discussion. You cannot justify it.
This argument isn't about 'stealing', it's about corrupt organizations using shady tactics.

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If Google or another search engine offered ways to transfer files back and forth through their site, then you would have a point. But they don't, so you don't. There may be bullying going on, but it doesn't change whether or not their service was knowingly used by thieves.
The files are never, even for a slight moment in time, located on torrentspy's servers. Do you not know how torrenting works?
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I would like to repeat myself that Because they do not host any files, they are not responsible for Theft, Copyright Infringement, or even Piracy.

The only thing I could see them possibly being in trouble for is being an accomplice to Piracy (If such a thing exists).

Please, understand how the system works before you make posts that I need to set on fire.
    
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