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Thank you for proving everything I said in that post is true in only one post. That takes skill.
No, thank you. You overzealous anti torrent goons always make me laugh with your never ending supply of ignorance.
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post #62 of 86
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No, thank you. You overzealous anti torrent goons always make me laugh with your never ending supply of ignorance.
Now we've regressed to the 4th grade level by effectively copying statements? I can see now I overestimated you.
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Wow this thread is heated. I fully disagree with what is happening. People talk about accessory to a crime. Then Google, Yahoo, Ask.com, etc... should all be fined as well because if your search for it they will provide the links to your request, hence making them accessories just the same. The problem is that our government has been bought off and passed laws that are completely stupid. ie... does everyone know that it's illegal to copy your own software, music, or videos if you have to bypass copy protection? That goes against our fair use rights which says we have the right to make personal copies. Another is a law that was passed that now makes it illegal to provide software that allows people to do illegal things. How retarded is that? That's why the analogy of throwing all the gun makers in jail or fining them because they make items that allow people to commit crimes is perfect for this argument. It's exactly the same thing. Remember, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Torrent sites, software companies don't pirate, people pirate.
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Wow this thread is heated. I fully disagree with what is happening. People talk about accessory to a crime. Then Google, Yahoo, Ask.com, etc... should all be fined as well because if your search for it they will provide the links to your request, hence making them accessories just the same. The problem is that our government has been bought off and passed laws that are completely stupid. ie... does everyone know that it's illegal to copy your own software, music, or videos if you have to bypass copy protection? That goes against our fair use rights which says we have the right to make personal copies. Another is a law that was passed that now makes it illegal to provide software that allows people to do illegal things. How retarded is that? That's why the analogy of throwing all the gun makers in jail or fining them because they make items that allow people to commit crimes is perfect for this argument. It's exactly the same thing. Remember, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Torrent sites, software companies don't pirate, people pirate.
Why are people so obsessed about other companies? No one said they were off limits and this isn't about them anyway! That point has already been addressed anyway, so why post it again unless you didn't read the whole thread?
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Oh, so a Google server hosted the file you downloaded, then, or acted as a medium through which you directly got the file? No? Didn't think so. But this isn't about things like search engines getting into trouble. This is about TorrentSpy. Trying to drag in other companies has absolutely no bearing on TorrentSpy's guilt.
TorrentSpy didn't host any torrent files. Google can do the same thing TorrentSpy did just enter "nameofwhatyouarelookingfor filetype:torrent"
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Now we've regressed to the 4th grade level by effectively copying statements? I can see now I overestimated you.
I've nothing left to say; I'm spent. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Continue living in your fantasy world where torrents and pirates are the scum of the earth, I could care less.

Even if I didn't use bittorrent at all, I'd still support them. Organizations like the MPAA openly admit to hacking, among other illegal activities, yet still win in court? Disgusting. They should be the ones paying up. Not to mention all the threatening letters they send out basically saying "Send us $3000 or we'll sue you for everything you have", with NO substantial evidence that the receiver was actually pirating. Sad thing is most of the people do pay up, whether they've downloaded or not, just because they know they'd never win in court. It's wrong.

And how many times has it been shown that these companies actually pirate themselves? Hypocrisy at it's finest. Our legal system is an absolute joke, and these companies have far too much power.

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TorrentSpy didn't host any torrent files. Google can do the same thing TorrentSpy did just enter "nameofwhatyouarelookingfor filetype:torrent"
Exactly. Google is by far the most comprehensive torrent search out there. The MPAA/RIAA will never go after them though, because they know damn well they wouldn't win. They instead go for the little guy, who has no chance of fighting back.
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Try first learning to separate anti-piracy sentiment from anti-torrent sentiment.

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TorrentSpy didn't host any torrent files. Google can do the same thing TorrentSpy did just enter "nameofwhatyouarelookingfor filetype:torrent"
What part of "or acted as a medium through which you directly got the file" do you people not understand? Is English that difficult for you pirates?
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I've nothing left to say; I'm spent. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Continue living in your fantasy world where torrents and pirates are the scum of the earth, I could care less.

Even if I didn't use bittorrent at all, I'd still support them. Organizations like the MPAA openly admit to hacking, among other illegal activities, yet still win in court? Disgusting. They should be the ones paying up. Not to mention all the threatening letters they send out basically saying "Send us $3000 or we'll sue you for everything you have", with NO substantial evidence that the receiver was actually pirating. Sad thing is most of the people do pay up, whether they've downloaded or not, just because they know they'd never win in court. It's wrong.

And how many times has it been shown that these companies actually pirate themselves? Hypocrisy at it's finest. Our legal system is an absolute joke, and these companies have far too much power.
I fully agree. I rarely download anything from torrents. Mostly demo games etc... The torrent sites are not to blame. The end user is the one to blame but they don't have enough money to take on the world so they moved up the ladder and started attacking people that are not in the wrong.
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I fully agree. I rarely download anything from torrents. Mostly demo games etc... The torrent sites are not to blame. The end user is the one to blame but they don't have enough money to take on the world so they moved up the ladder and started attacking people that are not in the wrong.
And why are you all so dense?! This is about TorrentSpy and only TorrentSpy. It has no bearing on any other company, so instead of pointing your fiinger like a 2-year old saying "he started it!" or "but he did it first and didn't get into trouble!" try fully considering the situation here before adding more useless arguments into the mix.
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What part of "or acted as a medium through which you directly got the file" do you people not understand? Is English that difficult for you pirates?
Entering that in Google would be a medium in which I could directly find a file. Are the concepts of Google's search options and what TorrentSpy actually did that difficult for you?
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