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People are gonna pirate for a long long time to come. Deal with it and companies stop writing thease stupid articles, it doesnt do anything to stop them.

Why should they have to deal with it?
post #12 of 89
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People are gonna pirate for a long long time to come. Deal with it and companies stop writing thease stupid articles, it doesnt do anything to stop them.
There is no reason not to "deal with it" They have deal with it when people and products have to be paid and paid for. Believe it or not these people that develop games want to make money at it like anyone would want to. When they have raise the price and create ridiculous verifying software just to be able to make a decent profit, it only hurts the end user. Your walking with blinders on to think other wise.
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post #13 of 89
Tim Sweeney isn't a hero, he's a quisling.

Disclaimer. I buy my games. I don't pirate Epic games, I just don't buy them any more.
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I don't want to get too far off topic, but one of the great things that piracy is doing right now is that it's spawning a revolution in the music industry. The bottom line is: musicians are going to need to find a new way to make their money. And one of those ways is through live performances - something you definitely can't pirate. And that's actually bringing the better musicians to the spotlight.

So in relevance to this topic, video game developers will simply have to find a new way to make their money. Not that Steam has any good ideas or anything...
    
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Well I'll say this. I hate with a passion having to re-validate my games. I mean I just miss it when games didn't require an internet connection. The companies have a right to think of themselves and their profit but what about the gamers that don't have an internet connection. To be honest, there's quite a few. They just enjoy playing single player games. Hell that's the reason I hate steam. You can't even play Half Life 2 without being connected to the internet.

Now I know they want to make money but let's say I'm playing Mass Effect on vacation and the hotel doesn't have free internet and my 10 day re-validation comes up. Now I'm screwed and I can't play this game that I just freaking bought for the specific reason of playing the game but now I can't play until I get to a location where I can re-validate the game. I mean what these companies don't seem to understand is that it's just as easy to pirate on the console as it is on the PC. They don't make mod chips and guides on how to do it for nothing.

But I guess they don't care and they will never care because the companies point of view will always and forever be, "If they want to play our games, they'll conform to our rules." So I guess I will just personally add more games to the "games I will never play list."

And to the companies that want to know the basis of my opinions. I'm not paying $50 for a game. There is no game that will give me $50 worth of playable value. For me, I wait until they go on clearance and then I buy them. I know, by then most of the hype will have faded but you know what, I can get $10 of value from a game. The last time I paid full price for a game is when Half Life 2 first came out and I got it for $49.95. I have never paid that price since. I got Battlefield 2 in the super mega blah blah pack for $10.96. I got Lost Planet for $3.96. I bought Shadowrun for $2.76. I bought Halo 2 for $7.89. I bought Enemy Territory: Quake Wars for $3.xx. The prices are weird like that because of the websites and Target's clearance prices. I got Crysis Collector's Edition and Call of Duty 4 for $7.96 each. Those are fair prices IMO. I know that the companies want to make money because of all the R&D and labor they put into making the game. But I'm not the guy to pay for it. I want to pay a fair price for a game that I will play for a short period of time. There's only 2 companies out there that's gotten more money off of me over time and that's Blizzard and SOE. I've ended up buying Starcraft and Broodwars about 5 times because I keep losing the CD Cases. I've bought Diablo II and it's expansions about 3 times. I bought it when it first came out and then I lost my CD-Key. So I bought the battlechest and I lost the 1 sleeve that comes with the DII cd-key but I've got the Expansion CD-Key. So I bought the battlechest again. As far as SOE goes, what can I say Star Wars Galaxies for a year and a half at $15 a month for 3 accounts for awhile and then down to 2 accounts when my friend took back over the payments for his account and the game was free because my friends bought it for me just to get me to play it with them. That was worth it.

Edit: I lied mistakingly. I do pay more for games just not on PC now that I think about it. Every Final Fantasy game I've bought has been $49.99 a piece. But it's just console only and more to the point Square games. They give me countless hours of enjoyment and always leave me waiting for the next one. That is wonderful IMO.
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Well I'll say this. I hate with a passion having to re-validate my games. I mean I just miss it when games didn't require an internet connection. The companies have a right to think of themselves and their profit but what about the gamers that don't have an internet connection. To be honest, there's quite a few. They just enjoy playing single player games. Hell that's the reason I hate steam. You can't even play Half Life 2 without being connected to the internet.

Now I know they want to make money but let's say I'm playing Mass Effect on vacation and the hotel doesn't have free internet and my 10 day re-validation comes up. Now I'm screwed and I can't play this game that I just freaking bought for the specific reason of playing the game but now I can't play until I get to a location where I can re-validate the game. I mean what these companies don't seem to understand is that it's just as easy to pirate on the console as it is on the PC. They don't make mod chips and guides on how to do it for nothing.

But I guess they don't care and they will never care because the companies point of view will always and forever be, "If they want to play our games, they'll conform to our rules." So I guess I will just personally add more games to the "games I will never play list."

I hear you man but, you can blame the pirates for this.
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Well I'll say this. I hate with a passion having to re-validate my games. I mean I just miss it when games didn't require an internet connection. The companies have a right to think of themselves and their profit but what about the gamers that don't have an internet connection. To be honest, there's quite a few. They just enjoy playing single player games. Hell that's the reason I hate steam. You can't even play Half Life 2 without being connected to the internet.

Now I know they want to make money but let's say I'm playing Mass Effect on vacation and the hotel doesn't have free internet and my 10 day re-validation comes up. Now I'm screwed and I can't play this game that I just freaking bought for the specific reason of playing the game but now I can't play until I get to a location where I can re-validate the game. I mean what these companies don't seem to understand is that it's just as easy to pirate on the console as it is on the PC. They don't make mod chips and guides on how to do it for nothing.

But I guess they don't care and they will never care because the companies point of view will always and forever be, "If they want to play our games, they'll conform to our rules." So I guess I will just personally add more games to the "games I will never play list."
What should they do to make sure they don't lose money to piracy? Do you really think they are adding the "every 10 day" validation to annoy you?

I think a quick ,but unrealistic answer would be for all the people stealing to simply stop.....omg! That's a nice dream and it won't happen. So now we are left dealing with this stuff becuase a large number of gamers out there want to be idiots and then try and justify their actions. Sorry but only the people stealing can only blame themselves for this and no one else. So now the general gaming public has to "deal with it" and that's pretty damn sad.
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What should they do to make sure they don't lose money to piracy? Do you really think they are adding the "every 10 day" validation to annoy you?

I think a quick ,but unrealistic answer would be for all the people stealing to simply stop.....omg! That's a nice dream and it won't happen. So now we are left dealing with this stuff becuase a large number of gamers out there want to be idiots and then try and justify their actions. Sorry the people stealing can only blame themselves for this and no one else. So now the general gaming public has to "deal with it" and that's pretty damn sad.
You're right. They aren't adding the every 10 day validation to annoy me because I'm not buying the game so I'll never have to deal with it

There's too many people out there to try and convince them all to stop pirating. Furthermore, even if every pirate in the world stopped pirating, they would still be using these same "deterents" but in the end what you've gotta realize is that who's going to be paying for these servers that are constantly taking your validation. I'll give you a hint, it's not them.

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I hear you man but, you can blame the pirates for this.
But it's not the pirates. The pirates are the scapegoat. But whatever floats their boat.
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It does seem to be the common thought that PC games are "okay" to pirate.

I still have loads of pirated games from when I was a teenager, but that was because I couldn't afford to buy them.
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Why do the PC makers allways use the term "steal"? It's not like the regular gamer is hacking into the companies mainframe and ripping all the stuff to his hard drive. I know a guy who used to download games via torrents and he was never familiar with the term "PC game piracy".
How would you feel if you spent years of your life working on a product and planned to make a profit from it....But then people start stealing it and you get no money for your trouble?
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